Wing Chun or Wing Tsun?

[Tiger Claw]

about a year ago at a bar open mouth snake strike dropped a guy and many other experiences (from my friend). He is now mixed so I cannot say he is a style now but a year ago he was not.

[Thai Bri]

When, where and what happened?

[Tiger Claw]

"The 12 basic techniques are known as the 12 cannons."

Heh, I won't say nothing about that. Why are they known as cannons? Don't shaolin monks practice wushu? They can't fight bri how come? I have seen effective shaolin kung fu.

[Thai Bri]

Thanks Emma. But none of these people can actually fight.

[LittleDemon]

chnagquan or long fist?

Changquan or Long fist
Part 1

From shaolin Kung-Fu came many styles that spread from it. The first earliest style is known in Chinese as TaijuChanquan this translated means "The Long Fist Style."

The meaning behind 'Long' means that it is a continuation of movesthat create patterns in their sets, this reflects the continuous flow of the long river which the Chinese call the Yangtze Kiang.

Later on changquan / Long Fist was used for other styles of Kung-Fu, where movements become fast, forceful,stretching movements and beautiful jumping and kicking techniques, all delievered with continuous movement. All of the Long Fist styles are either from Northern shaolin or have been greatly influenced by it.

A Chinese Muslim by the name of jamil invented Changquan also known as cha Kung-Fu. this was around he time of the Ming dynasty. The term comes from his name which in Chinese is pronounced "Cha-Mi-L".
Also Duaquan can be referred to as meaning Kung-Fu of muslims, this is because of it's popularity amongst the Muslims in North Western China.

There are 10 parts to this beautiful art which is excellent for fighting these 10 are:

1 mother and Son
2 Hand Movements
3 flying Kicks
4 Prosperity and Peace
5 East Of the Gate
6 Ambush
7 Plum Flower
8 Continuous Attack
9 Tail Wagging
10 Linked

Hong quan is pronounced Hung Ch' uan, also known as Hong Kung-Fu. This is well known in Shanxi and Sichuan.
It was founded by a very famous Shaolin monk Jue Yuan of the Yuan dynasty and was named after 2 basic sets.' Little hong' and 'Big hong'. It is well a well liked style of Northern Shaolin Kung-Fu.
Chinese translation of the word Hong means 'Red' also said the same way as a word meaning great. This is also a popular surname.


Hong Xi Guan has a famous style of Southern shaolin Kung-Fu named after him, called Hongquan.
Although spelt differently they are exact when written in Roman script.

Baoquan also known as Cannon Kung-Fu is an ancient style, documents tell us that the famous Shaolin monk Yuan Zhong gave a demo of Baoquan to the first Tang emperor during his inauguration as a general. Baoquan holds it's name for it's speed and power.

The 12 basic techniques are known as the 12 cannons.

[guy incognito]

guy incognito

Im happy to try and answer any questions any body may have re mantis style.I have also trained in Tae Kwon Do,Ninjitsu,and Tai Chi.

[guy incognito]

What function does the mantis 'hand' have? Trapping? Gouging? Parrying??[/QUOTE]Preying mantis is very uncommon in the Country(Australia) And I feel fortunate to be able to study it>Trapping-When trapping its done in such a way that if the opponent withdraws his arm it will tear the flesh.Could also be the unique gaurd that looks like a preying mantis.Any other quetions welcome.

[Thai Bri]

manting????

[Tom Yum]

I dont know where you get your info but but it was not developed to beat shaolin monks.As you no doubt are aware it was develped by a woman soposedly named Ng mui(not suure how to pronounce)I practice tong long if you wuold like to insult it to.

Ng is such a strange sounding syllable in Cantonese its the same as Wu in Mandarin.

Anyhow, tang long.....qi xing tang long?

That's probably one of the least talked about but combat effective styles of gong fu. There are only 2 known sylists of gong fu fighters who have won in the ring against muay thai fighters; a monkey stylist (ironically) and a mantis stylist from Venezuela.

I used to follow Sifu John Funk's article in Inside Kungfu throughout the 90
s; before the MMA craze he was pro-elbow, knee and headbut as finishing techniques for infighting. Tang long is both a medium and close range fighting system, right?

What function does the mantis 'hand' have? Trapping? Gouging? Parrying??

[guy incognito]

Wc

stick to topic, please

Unlike some WC styles, WT hasn't picked up stuff from other styles like jumping around like a kickboxer. Also there are student-programs in WT developed for mass learning. WT is also a more expensive to learn if you want to take grades, but you don't have to. Wing chun was developed to defeat the shaolin monks, while WT is a more modern style, according to me. Leung Ting changed the spelling for his style to WingTsun because he didn't want WT to be accociated with other linages of WC because he believed that WT was very different.

I dont know where you get your info but but it was not developed to beat shaolin monks.As you no doubt are aware it was develped by a woman soposedly named Ng mui(not suure how to pronounce)To redirct the kind of brute force ad ignorance Thai Bri domonstrates.Thai Bri if Thai boxing is so fantastic go find a Thai boxing forum and stop rubbishing poeple here who have made their choice of wing Chun.I practice tong long if you wuold like to insult it to.

[Thai Bri]

Now now.

She's too nice for this sexual banter. In fact, she's like the daughter I never had (sob sob).

So please leave it out.

[bartjam]

ok, supposing I beat you in a blind chi-sau competition, can I then chose what prize I get? :-)

[LittleDemon]

Emma you shouldn't post pictures of yourself on the web... this is not a safe thing to do....

It's ok Krys ima big girl i can take care of myself and i live in the middle of nowhere so im pretty sure id notice if i had a stalker!

[krys]

Emma you shouldn't post pictures of yourself on the web... this is not a safe thing to do....

[Rudolphuss]

I was joking .