dangers of flakey teachers and the rise of internet fu

[TigerClaw]

For those from DL, admit your error and apologize for your attacks and many lies.

[jubaji]

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[TigerClaw]

You can want whatever you like, but:

a) It is not relevant to this topic
b)I am not actually presenting any techniques to discuss

That's a convenient excuse.

Or is this closer to reality

...Let's just pretend I have no experience, and I'm just being a devil's advocate shall we? That way we can remain focussed.

No that way you can get to close to the devil.

[TigerClaw]

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Speechless again....

[sunwukung]

That's a convenient excuse.

How so? In what way does my lineage have anything to do with evaluating the dangers of flakey teachers? How does my capacity to hold Yee Gee Kay Yeung Ma have anything to do with this thread?

I do not need any martial skill whatsoever to detect inconsistencies in the inherent logic of a verbal statement, and it is on those grounds that I debate your points.

Or is this closer to reality.

That I have no experience? In truth, no, but since I offered it as a theoretical perspective from which to debate with me, feel free to believe whatever you want.
You already do anyway...

[TigerClaw]

...That I have no experience? In truth, no, but since I offered it as a theoretical perspective from which to debate w

Do you have experience, and have you studied Kung Fu for many years as I have? if not why are you arguing with me about things you don't understand?

[sunwukung]

Do you have experience, and have you studied Kung Fu for many years as I have?

As I said:

I do not need any martial skill whatsoever to detect inconsistencies in the inherent logic of a verbal statement, and it is on those grounds that I debate your points.

Since I am not the subject of this thread (being neither a teacher or advancing any theory of martial arts), these questions are not pertinent, nor relevant.

To reiterate:

1)I, and many others, require evidence by way of empirical proof of your claims. Combat occurs over time, so this evidence needs to be time-based, i.e:video. Since you are talking about 'real combat', the video needs, at the very least, to be demonstrated against a non-compliant partner.

2)Training techniques which you can't/won't test until the moment they are required is probably not as valid a methodology as training techniques that can be tested before they are needed. Based on what you have said, the techniques you refer to fall into the former category.

3)Since you are the originator of the idea, it is better for you to demonstrate it, than set others homework - especially since you consistently say we do not understand the techniques you're referring to.

[Ben Grimm]

I am the DEVIL! Instead of LARPing, why don't you just put up or shut up. Just blindly following your teacher or just knowing the applications without testing them will get you hurt.

[TigerClaw]

As I said:
Since I am not the subject of this thread (being neither a teacher or advancing any theory of martial arts), these questions are not pertinent, nor relevant.

LOL, LOL , LOL .......sorry for that outburst it was just funny what you tried to say and your twisted logic.

You just admit that you really don't know what you are talking about and so why do you even try to correct a Kung Fu teacher.

...1)I, and many others, require evidence by way of empirical proof of your claims. Combat occurs over time, so this evidence needs to be time-based, i.e:video. Since you are talking about 'real combat', the video needs, at the very least, to be demonstrated against a non-compliant partner

LOL ....do you need video proof that a kick in the groin is going to hurt someone? or video proof that clawing the eyes is going to hurt the person etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.

To use your logic, you could never believe the training in a police academy that says when you point this gun at certain areas of the body the attacker will drop dead. You would have to see the video of it. Your reasoning is very weak as some others in here sad to say. I do not want to be mean to you, but really think about what you are going to say before you attack me.

3)Since you are the originator of the idea, it is better for you to demonstrate it, than set others homework - especially since you consistently say we do not understand the techniques you're referring to.

I am not the originator of a groin kick etc . Kung Fu has been around for a long time. I have developed moves for myself from many other Kung Fu techniques and principles but all Kung Fu teacher do that.

Show me your videos of you doing anything that even closely resmbles martial arts and we can talk about that.

[Ben Grimm]

You might be a teacher, but you're not teaching Kung Fu.

[sunwukung]

You just admit that you really don't know what you are talking about and so why do you even try to correct a Kung Fu teacher.

I'm not correcting you, I'm simply asking you to demonstrate the technique.

To use your logic, you could never believe the training in a police academy that says when you point this gun at certain areas of the body the attacker will drop dead.

Good point. Yet, surely you can defeat a wrestler without killing him?

I do not want to be mean to you, but really think about what you are going to say before you attack me.

I'm not attacking you, I'm asking you questions.

I am not the originator of a groin kick etc . Kung Fu has been around for a long time.

Sure, but as you've said, most of us have no understanding of real kung fu, so we have to rely on your greater skill level to reveal it. Please do so, or we might lose faith in what you're saying. );P

[Ben Grimm]

Can you see what he's saying. Stop preaching to choir TC, it's irritating.

[TigerClaw]

Can you see what he's saying. Stop preaching to choir TC, it's irritating.

Preaching, that's a whole different thing.....

[mellow]

Do you have experience, and have you studied Kung Fu for many years as I have?

Perhaps you should have spent less time studying it and more time training it.

[Ben Grimm]

As I've said before, it looks like he learned his Hung Ga from books and maybe movies.