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  • Oh yes, Mr. 'i'm a fraud" Brian "I teach a Martial art based on non-contact principles that wouldn't protect you from anybody but will take your money" Leishman.

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    • Originally posted by Ben Grimm View Post
      Oh yes, Mr. 'i'm a fraud" Brian "I teach a Martial art based on non-contact principles that wouldn't protect you from anybody but will take your money" Leishman.
      Wrong, everything Brian taught was combative, at least when he taught us, he knew many things and not just the things some claim he knew. You don't know what you are talking about there.

      By the way I have not met many who could fight like he did. He is so effective at his kung fu that he was able to develop his own style over the years. At one time he was connected to 13 Kung Fu clubs.

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      • Originally posted by sunwukung View Post
        Hang about, you're Tiger Claw's son aren't you?
        No he is not my son.

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        • Originally posted by TigerClaw View Post
          Wrong, everything Brian taught was combative, at least when he taught us, he knew many things and not just the things some claim he knew. You don't know what you are talking about there.

          By the way I have not met many who could fight like he did.


          How often did you fight him?

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          • Originally posted by Mr. Arieson
            When have I EVER came off as an ITG? Huh?

            I have always freely admitted I was a amateur martial artist, and have never claimed anything otherwise.

            You should check your facts, troll spawn.
            actually I have read a number of your sad postings and you do come across as a bit of a smuck & a troll, look above at how you stoop to name calling, pathetic really.

            The poster/member HuSanYan is right about the Internet Tough Guys on here, all talking like tough smucks.

            Originally posted by Mr. Arieson
            You have offered no evidence or proof that you are a martial arts teacher. We have to just take you at your word?
            why on Earth should the poster Tigerclaw have to prove anything to a whinger and moaner like you??

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            • Funny how a bunch of folks who have virtually never posted have 'suddenly' decided to chime in.

              Hopefully they'll participate more.

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              • Originally posted by Mr. Arieson
                You have offered no evidence or proof that you are a martial arts teacher. We have to just take you at your word?
                Whats it matter if he teaches or not and why does anyone have to prove anything on here? Him teaching has nothing to do with wheather or not his kung fu skills are good or not or even if his kung fu skills work in real life. So again I ask you....Why does it matter if he teaches or not?

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                • Okay, I teach also but what kind of proof can he provide to vouch for his claim? I couldn't proove that I teach either by posting something other than phone numbers of people that I teach. And even then you would have to call them to ask if I teach them.

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                  • Originally posted by JThorne View Post
                    why on Earth should the poster Tigerclaw have to prove anything to a whinger and moaner like you??
                    He doesn't, not at all. But if he wants his detractors to change their opinion of him, then he may have to. If this is not important to him, then I recommend he add all these users to his 'ignore' list and be happy with his own opinion.

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                    • Pathetic Moaners

                      Originally posted by Mr. Arieson
                      Because he is claiming he is a martial arts teacher, and wants us to respect him as one.
                      Hey, I can claim anything I want...but if I REFUSE to post any proof, then what?
                      what's it to a girl like you if he teaches or not???

                      Basically what we have here is a situation where a few people with not much better to do simply have a go at someone for the sake of being incredible pussies and moaners.

                      Tigerclaw seems to be reasonably genuine, what is the matter with you twats?

                      Originally posted by JThorne
                      actually I have read a number of your sad postings and you do come across as a bit of a smuck & a troll, look above at how you stoop to name calling, pathetic really.

                      The poster/member HuSanYan is right about the Internet Tough Guys on here, all talking like tough smucks. why on Earth should the poster Tigerclaw have to prove anything to a whinger and moaner like you??
                      JThorne, couldn't have put it better myself.

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                      • Fair Enough

                        Originally posted by Mr. Arieson
                        He doesn't seem genuine to me at all. And not to a lot of other people here, either.

                        We have had many problems with people assuming fake indentities here, claiming this, that and the other thing. I guess it is not really hurting anyone, so our counter-claims should'nt hurt anyone else, either.

                        If your Dad is a real teacher, prove it. At least then we can RESPECTFULLY disagree with his theories.
                        I have to say that your comments are fair enough.
                        I come from the point of view of having been in real military combat so sometimes get carried away when I perceive (correctly or incorrectly) someone being picked on for no good reason by people who want to write things to appear tough.
                        Once again, I think your comments in your last post are perfectly fair.

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                        • Originally posted by Mr. Arieson
                          He doesn't seem genuine to me at all. And not to a lot of other people here, either.

                          We have had many problems with people assuming fake indentities here, claiming this, that and the other thing. I guess it is not really hurting anyone, so our counter-claims should'nt hurt anyone else, either.

                          If your Dad is a real teacher, prove it. At least then we can RESPECTFULLY disagree with his theories.
                          I have never assumed a fake identity. The real problem is with men like you who really do not have much experience in martial arts and who act as if they do and don't think twice about attempting to rebuke a kung fu teacher. But the troubling thing is that they have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.

                          I am as genuine as they come. My faith will not allow me to lie or be mean spirited or go about cursing and mocking as many here do. The moral truthful aspect of my life is far more important than my Kung Fu teaching.

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                          • Originally posted by Mr. Arieson
                            Because he is claiming he is a martial arts teacher, and wants us to respect him as one.
                            Hey, I can claim anything I want...but if I REFUSE to post any proof, then what?
                            I don't seek your respect at all. I only hope you would stop lying. When I see a liar and a person that seeks to defame another and attack them needlessly I have to admit I take issue with that.

                            By the way even if I posted 900 hours of You tube video with every form I know and every application, you would still attack me and we would be back here again. You would find something else to attack.

                            It's the way you are that is the problem.

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                            • Ok, guys here we go again.

                              This is a crest from one of the clubs I trained at. Master Lin had taught there for many years during the eighties. He taught Hung Gar , Northern Shaolin, White Crane. And just because you cannot find it on the internet does not mean that it did not exist. I could show you yellow page ads for this club all through the eighties. I am not going to show pics of my Choy Li Fut master for other reasons, but his lineage is strong.



                              And here is a technique that can be used against a shoot at the legs, you reach over with the left hand and lock into the inside lips and eyelids, or lock the chin. But be careful with this it is very dangerous. Do not practice this unless you have proper instruction. All these type of things should be done at a slower speed.

                              Now some may say that this technique won't work. But I think they say this having never really seen it before or practiced it. id does work and it is very effective. But would be highly illegal in the MMA sport fighting.

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                              • Ok, let's see it. Against a competent grappler, not some clumsy doofus who learned 'grappling' from the likes of you. Let's see it at full speed with full intent on both sides.

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