dangers of flakey teachers and the rise of internet fu

[Ben Grimm]

He posted pictures on DL of him using techniques against a grappler. However the grappler was his son who knows nothing about grappling at all.

[TigerClaw]

I also posted picture of me with two of my students, which you seem to forget.

[Ben Grimm]

Them standing on either side of you and each one holding a staff doesn't prove anything. I could ask some juniors at the school I train in to do exactly the same thing if I wished.

[TigerClaw]

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I know grapplers and I even taught a professional grappler some techniques in the past (actually he is just getting into the pro part) . I showed him how to escape from a rear naked choke, he found it very useful and thanked me. And no, I will not tell you his name, or his other teachers name who I also have met. I have even been hired by a MMA club to teach kung fu in the past, but I had to turn them down because it was too far from where I live to drive.

[sunwukung]

I know grapplers and I even taught a professional grappler some techniques in the past (actually he is just getting into the pro part) . I showed him how to escape from a rear naked choke, he found it very useful and thanked me. And no, I will not tell you his name, or his other teachers name who I also have met. I have even been hired by a MMA club to teach kung fu in the past, but I had to turn them down because it was too far from where I live to drive.

Allow me to point something out to you TC. Do you understand that you can say whatever you want, but this is purely anecdotal and no-one barring yourself has the capacity to know if you are telling the truth?

I could say that I was the bodyguard of someone very,very,very important. But if I refuse to tell you who it was, then why should you believe what I say to be true?

This is not an accusation, it's a simple fact of communication. Do you accept that? If so, then you have to also accept the fact that all these anecdotes are effectively empty of meaning. They may be interesting, they may even be true, but in terms of communication, no-one can evaluate whether what you're saying is true or false.

[jubaji]

I know grapplers and I even taught a professional grappler some techniques in the past (actually he is just getting into the pro part) . I showed him how to escape from a rear naked choke, he found it very useful and thanked me. And no, I will not tell you his name, or his other teachers name who I also have met. I have even been hired by a MMA club to teach kung fu in the past, but I had to turn them down because it was too far from where I live to drive.

I believe you so much I can't tell you...

[Ben Grimm]

I have to agree with sunwukung on this. You claim to be a teacher, both sunwukung and I are students of WC. People are just after something a little more evident than what you have shown so far.

[TigerClaw]

Allow me to point something out to you TC. Do you understand that you can say whatever you want, but this is purely anecdotal and no-one barring yourself has the capacity to know if you are telling the truth?

I could say that I was the bodyguard of someone very,very,very important. But if I refuse to tell you who it was, then why should you believe what I say to be true?

This is not an accusation, it's a simple fact of communication. Do you accept that? If so, then you have to also accept the fact that all these anecdotes are effectively empty of meaning. They may be interesting, they may even be true, but in terms of communication, no-one can evaluate whether what you're saying is true or false.

I know these things, but, I know that I tell the truth, so for me that is enough, If othes believe me, well, thats good , it makes things easier to discuss. But I would not want to, or even be able to go back to the MMA school that hired me and take a video of the man that hired me and have him say yes he hired me just to put it on this site. And I would feel ridiculous to go back to the MMA teacher that I know and say, "hey, can I teach you that rear naked choke escape again, and this time can we film it for the ones who hate me and attack me without any proof on a martial arts forum, oh and by the way can you show some resistance so they see that it really works". He would think I was crazy. That would be ridiculous, I think you can agree there. So we only have our words and experiences and picture and at times video.

I may post some new video in here in the future and pics, it depends what mood I am in.

But all we can do is tell our history, describe techniques, post pictures of us showing the techniques and video etc, and if people believe it good, if not, .....oh well, it doesn't really matter.

[jubaji]

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[TigerClaw]

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another stuttering, meaningless post.

When you respond to something, be specific, get into details, examine, define, relate, expose, use reasonable discussion, show techniques and describe strengths and weaknesses.

[jubaji]

Your nonsense has been pointed out hundreds of times now, Rain Man.

[TigerClaw]

..People are just after something a little more evident than what you have shown so far.

Ben, I wait for you to post anything at all, showing that you really have done martial arts. Anything, a picture of you in your club, or doing a technique, anything.

[TigerClaw]

Your nonsense has been pointed out hundreds of times now, Rain Man.

Again, you fail, you give no details of anything I have said that is nonsense. I teach and speak real things and workable techniques and you give nothing. You do not define what you mean, you do not explain any details, or give any proof, or quote anything etc. You just give the same pointless talk.

Why do you bother posting anything in here Jubaji?

Really, I ask in all seriousness, why?

[jubaji]

Still waiting, Rain Man......

[jubaji]

Btw, why did you never answer my question about whether or not you have ever been to a "remote village in China" and some nutjob watching monkeys? Remember that? You never answered that...