Not that many Kung Fu people here?

[Ben Grimm]

Bwahahahahaha. Telling the LARPer that won't do him any good.

[Sagacious Lu]

Bwahahahahaha. Telling the LARPer that won't do him any good.

No, but it will make it obvious to anyone else reading the thread that he has no idea what he's talking about.

[Ben Grimm]

I think that was obvious a long time ago.

[TigerClaw]

No, but it will make it obvious to anyone else reading the thread that he has no idea what he's talking about.

I know it seems obvious you just say things like that to provoke me to come in and prove you wrong. But you know very little about Kung Fu it seems and all your attacks on what I say are really meaningless.

It should be obvious to any Kung Fu practitioner that you have given up on Kung Fu because either you weren't taught properly or you only did one style and gave up or you just did nt practice right or hard enough.

It is should be obvious to anyone here who has some martial background.

[TigerClaw]

I think that was obvious a long time ago.

The only thing that is obvious is that you don't really have that much experience in Kung Fu as you make out, or else every thing I have said about kung fu would ring true in your ears.

It should be obvious to any with martial backgrounds in here.

[Akira]

Thats shit. Why can't we upload images?

[Ben Grimm]

What the LARPer doesn't realise is I've got much more fighting experience than he does, and I've got the bumps and scars to prove it. Just 2 days ago I fought a Sanda stylist. He can fight... but wait.... TigerClown thinks that using CMA like that (since it resembles Muay Thai to a degree but with more throws) is useless. I'd like to see TigerClown face him.....

[jmd161]

Benn, first of all, I don't have anything to prove, and I don't fight for pride and glory as you seem to think. Secondly, if you really understood Kung Fu, you would know that it is very dangerous to even spar full contact. There are many dangerous techniques that will seriously hurt the opponent. Yes there are many techniques that can be done that would not have to do so. But in combat you never know what is going to come at you. And Kung Fu was designed for survival combat, not sport.

TigerClaw,

As much as you try to defend CMA... you actually make it look even worst with post like this. I've trained in many systems and styles over the yrs, and i am 100% un-yielding in my devotion to CMA. But so many people in the CMA world have no clue what they are talking about. There is so much in CMA like any real art that can hurt without doing serious damage before you get to the strikes, locks, holds etc...that can do serious damage. Most people can't throw a proper punch, but speak of being able to maim at will.

Anyone that knows anything about martial arts have heard the stories surrounding CMA's. The problem is that's usually all there is, just stories no documented or visual proof. no one really debates the past or history of CMA. What they do question is it's effectiveness in today's fighting. It doesn't mater what Grandmaster such and such did, if you can not pull any of what you're learning off.

just my .02 cents...

jeff

[TigerClaw]

TigerClaw,

As much as you try to defend CMA... you actually make it look even worst with post like this. I've trained in many systems and styles over the yrs, and i am 100% un-yielding in my devotion to CMA. But so many people in the CMA world have no clue what they are talking about. There is so much in CMA like any real art that can hurt without doing serious damage before you get to the strikes, locks, holds etc...that can do serious damage. Most people can't throw a proper punch, but speak of being able to maim at will.

Anyone that knows anything about martial arts have heard the stories surrounding CMA's. The problem is that's usually all there is, just stories no documented or visual proof. no one really debates the past or history of CMA. What they do question is it's effectiveness in today's fighting. It doesn't mater what Grandmaster such and such did, if you can not pull any of what you're learning off.

just my .02 cents...

jeff

Jeff, you said you have trained in many systems over the years, Like what and how long and who were your teachers etc etc etc.

You sound like you really did not have any real teaching or if so, you may have not found the right school. There are alot of weak teachers out there .

Also. When some today try to compare MMA to Kung Fu, they make the big mistake of actually thinking that the ring fighting is real fighting. the fighting in the ring is a SPORT and it is designed to be a full contact SPORT. Kung Fu was not designed as a sport, but as survival combat fighting. There is a BIG difference.

In MMA you are allowed to strike a persons face. But Kung Fu strikes would not be allowed in many cases, because they don't fit the SPORT , "don't really hurt the guy seriously, we have insurance and sponsors watching " kind of fighting.

One illusion today is propegated on many young people today who watch MMA and think that is how you are to fight in the street in survival combat.

[jmd161]

Jeff, you said you have trained in many systems over the years, Like what and how long and who were your teachers etc etc etc.

You sound like you really did not have any real teaching or if so, you may have not found the right school. There are alot of weak teachers out there .

Also. When some today try to compare MMA to Kung Fu, they make the big mistake of actually thinking that the ring fighting is real fighting. the fighting in the ring is a SPORT and it is designed to be a full contact SPORT. Kung Fu was not designed as a sport, but as survival combat fighting. There is a BIG difference.

In MMA you are allowed to strike a persons face. But Kung Fu strikes would not be allowed in many cases, because they don't fit the SPORT , "don't really hurt the guy seriously, we have insurance and sponsors watching " kind of fighting.

One illusion today is propegated on many young people today who watch MMA and think that is how you are to fight in the street in survival combat.

I don't claim many of my old sifu for reasons I won't get into here. I only acknowledge my current sifu C. Kuen Woo of Hak Fu Mun (Blk Tiger) and Hung Man Fei from Hung Fut Pai. I am very aware of what's allowed in MMA and what's not allowed. I also know that MMA is sport but it shows how many so called kung fu stylist can't even compete in sport but belive they can maim and kill at will.

That is the very sad part!

jeff

[Tant01]

Blowing wind in his sail.... Carefull with the fragile vessle. I think his mast is too big for the ship...

So to type...

[jmd161]

Jeff, you said you have trained in many systems over the years, Like what and how long and who were your teachers etc etc etc.

You sound like you really did not have any real teaching or if so, you may have not found the right school. There are alot of weak teachers out there .

Also. When some today try to compare MMA to Kung Fu, they make the big mistake of actually thinking that the ring fighting is real fighting. the fighting in the ring is a SPORT and it is designed to be a full contact SPORT. Kung Fu was not designed as a sport, but as survival combat fighting. There is a BIG difference.

In MMA you are allowed to strike a persons face. But Kung Fu strikes would not be allowed in many cases, because they don't fit the SPORT , "don't really hurt the guy seriously, we have insurance and sponsors watching " kind of fighting.

One illusion today is propegated on many young people today who watch MMA and think that is how you are to fight in the street in survival combat.

I did not answer the question as well as I could have. I have trained In Bak Sil Lum (N. Shaolin), Southern Sung family Fist (Emperor's longfist), Hung Gar, Fut Gar, Hung Fut and Hak Fu Mun (Black Tiger) In CMA. Boxing, Wrestling (Roman Greco) Nisei Go Ju Ryu (Karate) and roll on a regular basis with BJJ purple, brown and black belts. I've trained in Martial arts for over 28 yrs with nearly 18 yrs in CMA's alone.

AS far as kung fu strikes not being allowed. There are other strikes than just throat and groin strikes. The whole center line is allowed in MMA and if you know CMA as you say...you'd know the center line is very important, and when attacked can cause severe pain. I know very well what kung fu was designed for I also know it's crap when someone says they can't fight without seriously hurting someone or for fear of killing their training partner.


jeff

[jmd161]

Tiger Claw,


I'm curious as to what styles of CMA have you studied?


jeff

[jubaji]

Don't bother Jeff, he's just a LARPer clown.

[jmd161]

Don't bother Jeff, he's just a LARPer clown.

I assume your name is from learning Baji?


Baji is a great style I really wanted to learn it, but legit sifu in the style are few and far between. Kinda like my style of Black Tiger.


jeff