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  • Tant01
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    Thank you!

    Originally posted by USArmyBJJ View Post
    You go to a kneeling position driving forward with your back leg.
    Evidently you solved some riddle here, eh?



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  • USArmyBJJ
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    Originally posted by kingoftheforest View Post
    If you shoot with your back straight you'd have to be in a sitting position which would seriously impede your forward movement.

    Also unless your fighting a guy whose over 7 ft tall how do you get under his arm with your back straight.
    You go to a kneeling position driving forward with your back leg.

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  • USArmyBJJ
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    Originally posted by jubaji View Post
    LOL, this is what I meant when I said you did not understand what you were seeing. His left hand cleared the opponent's right and then went to his head and his right arm moved in an arc to make the opponent reach and to then clear that arm as he moved under.
    From looking at the clip, it looks to me like your interpretation of it is correct.

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  • jubaji
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    Originally posted by kingoftheforest View Post
    As soon as you "bend at the waist" your head is physically in front of you. So as soon as you bend it is anatomically impossible not to lead with your head.If you shoot with your back straight you'd have to be in a sitting position which would seriously impede your forward movement.

    Also unless your fighting a guy whose over 7 ft tall how do you get under his arm with your back straight.


    You said you wrestled in high school. Did they teach you nothing?

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  • jubaji
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    Originally posted by kingoftheforest View Post
    He swings both his arms behind him before he charges in. there is no "aha" to it.


    LOL, this is what I meant when I said you did not understand what you were seeing. His left hand cleared the opponent's right and then went to his head and his right arm moved in an arc to make the opponent reach and to then clear that arm as he moved under.

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  • jubaji
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    Originally posted by USArmyBJJ View Post
    For what's it worth (and that might not be much) - I was always taught that you never "lead with your head" when shooting a double as well. To "lead with your head" as I understand it is to bend at the waist when shooting. You avoid doing that because it exposes you to guillotine chokes and makes it easier to sprawl against you. I was taught to shoot with your back straight. I think, but could be wrong, that that is what jubaji means when he says that you don't lead with your head.

    I can't think of any situation where it would be smart to lean forward at the waist while shooting. But I didn't wrestle in high school, so I'm not an expert on it.

    Well, you're ahead of most here and you are correct.

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  • jubaji
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    Originally posted by TTExcrement View Post
    Wanna bet he scrambles and removes those claims as well?


    "As well"? I have never removed any claims from this forum. Maybe you have been sniffing too many hair gel fumes.

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  • jubaji
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    Originally posted by TTExcrement View Post
    Much like his CMA claims were all proven to be lies



    Speaking of lies, that is one right there. I guess you STILL feel inferior for some reason. Too bad, you really don't need to.

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  • jubaji
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    Originally posted by kingoftheforest View Post
    Oh and by the way STFU If you don't even know anatomy or physics. Cause you obviously don't know grappling.



    Then I guess I won't STFU because I've been trying to explain these things to you over and over.



    And please don't make me say again that you will NEVER know half of what I do about grappling if you live to see 100.

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  • jubaji
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    Originally posted by kingoftheforest View Post

    Also this 2 time olympic wrestler points out that you should keep your hands at your waist

    They don't have to be at your waist, but he's right that you should not be shooting with your arms stretched out in front of you. You should have just asked me and saved yourself all that googling.

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  • jubaji
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    Originally posted by kingoftheforest View Post
    Also how exactly is your head in line with your shoulders?
    Oh, you don't understand? I thought not.

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  • jubaji
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    Originally posted by USArmyBJJ View Post
    That's exactly my point. I was taught that you are not supposed to bend at the waist. You keep your back straight when shooting.

    You are right, you are supposed to.

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  • jubaji
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    Originally posted by kingoftheforest View Post
    The human skeletal structure is designed such that if these are all in line then your head is out in front.


    If you want to drop a plum line from the nose and say "ah ha!" if there's the slightest distance from the body, then congratulations for really, really getting the point.

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  • USArmyBJJ
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    Originally posted by kingoftheforest View Post
    As soon as you "bend at the waist" your head is physically in front of you. So as soon as you bend it is anatomically impossible not to lead with your head.
    That's exactly my point. I was taught that you are not supposed to bend at the waist. You keep your back straight when shooting.

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  • kingoftheforest
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    Originally posted by USArmyBJJ View Post
    For what's it worth (and that might not be much) - I was always taught that you never "lead with your head" when shooting a double as well. To "lead with your head" as I understand it is to bend at the waist when shooting. You avoid doing that because it exposes you to guillotine chokes and makes it easier to sprawl against you. I was taught to shoot with your back straight. I think, but could be wrong, that that is what jubaji means when he says that you don't lead with your head.



    I can't think of any situation where it would be smart to lean forward at the waist while shooting. But I didn't wrestle in high school, so I'm not an expert on it.
    As soon as you "bend at the waist" your head is physically in front of you. So as soon as you bend it is anatomically impossible not to lead with your head.If you shoot with your back straight you'd have to be in a sitting position which would seriously impede your forward movement.

    Also unless your fighting a guy whose over 7 ft tall how do you get under his arm with your back straight.
    Last edited by kingoftheforest; 04-13-2009, 08:31 PM.

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