Sriking take down

[jubaji]

You need to penetrate quickly or he'll block your approach, so do a quick level change by bending the knees and weaving your head under his armpit.

Quickness is not as important as an effective set up.

The idea is not to "weave" your head, it is to move into the opponent's center (not his armpit).

[TTEscrima]

Hey TTEscrima,

Try putting EVERYONE on ignore accept little asshat

Its fun!

Granted you read nothing, but rolleyes and fu smileys, but it makes me feel a part of the gang....

...like it does him.

Yeah but that's a "gang" I'd rather not be part of. Come to think of it, wasn't there a wrestler known as the One Man Gang?

I think jubs is just off his game and more insecure than usual since Tigerclaw has replaced him as the opening comedy act he's feeling left out and useless.

It's become clear he can't even keep up discussing wrestling with a CMA guy and he doesn't quite know how to recover, but it's evident it won't be by posting anything useful on the subject of how to execute wrestling techniques.

How embarrassing it must be to be schooled by ME on wrestling for all his virtual audience to see, after all he claims I don't have a clue, guess that leaves him in one hell of an embarrassing spot. Maybe another comment on my hair will make him feel better.

[knifethrower]

Hey TTEscrima,

Try putting EVERYONE on ignore accept little asshat

Its fun!

Granted you read nothing, but rolleyes and fu smileys, but it makes me feel a part of the gang....

...like it does him.

[knifethrower]

LOL spin!!!

That's even better

[jubaji]

The set up you add in won't change the trained habits or how the takedown functions on a skeletal level.

I love the elderly woman style passive-aggressive weakness Captain Insecure here keeps sharing. The best part is that all his effeminate spin doesn't change what makes him feel so inferior in the first place.


Apologies to actual women.

[knifethrower]

LOL! Are you expressing your insecurities again? Seek help immediately.

Oh fuk THATS funny!!!!!!!!!!..................


...........insecurities............

[jubaji]

Why ask him again he obviously has no idea.

LOL! Are you expressing your insecurities again? Seek help immediately.

[jubaji]

This is where I'm I'm getting confused. This was about the double leg at some point and then you posted a vid of a 'duck under'. Why was that relevant?

Because KOTF had actually mentioned what amounted to a duck under. Just responding.

Do arms lead or does head lead in a double leg, proper technique?

Ideally, everything should move together in coordination as you make penetration.

[Junka]

BY NO MEANS WAS I ADVOCATING USING A DOUBLE LEG FOR SD!!!!

Well you did have me confused there for a moment. LOL. No I appreciate that, I was more just going into a monologue about striking and make shift equipment.

[TTEscrima]

Thanks TTE good breakdown of the double leg.

Glad someone could be of assistance, even if it was one of us CMA guys who don't know shit.

Yeah well for SD I'm working on my strikes again anyway and basically trying some new striking drills to see if I can get comfortable with empty hand strikes. I have to add here, I've struck with my fists for a long time now so it's an old habit. I'll be in the bush for a while soon it'll be makeshift equipment. Something like a makiwara or makeshift punching bag.

BY NO MEANS WAS I ADVOCATING USING A DOUBLE LEG FOR SD!!!!

I just figured someone ought to be able to explain its usage since it seemed beyond the ability of the people actually advocating it.

I mean how many pages are we into this and all we have gotten was pencil analogies, and different techniques he tried to pass off. No doubt he'll be in shortly to try and salvage some of his credibility if that's even a word you can use in conjunction with him. Who knows maybe my explanation will give him enough information to try to grasp the subject at hand and comment intelligently (or more likely give him an idea what to google so he can try to BS his way through until he can get back to his safety zone of insult slinging and one liners).

[Junka]

Thanks TTE good breakdown of the double leg.

First throw a strike to try and make the opponent cover up thus exposing his midsection, make sure the strike is a real even if your intent is the takedown.

Yeah well for SD I'm working on my strikes again anyway and basically trying some new striking drills to see if I can get comfortable with empty hand strikes. I have to add here, I've struck with my fists for a long time now so it's an old habit. I'll be in the bush for a while soon it'll be makeshift equipment. Something like a makiwara or makeshift punching bag.

[TTEscrima]

This is where I'm I'm getting confused. This was about the double leg at some point and then you posted a vid of a 'duck under'. Why was that relevant?

It wasn't relevant, he either doesn't know the difference or he was trying to BS his way out of the embarrassing situation he got into by posting more than a rolleyes.

Do arms lead or does head lead in a double leg, proper technique?

Why ask him again he obviously has no idea. Watch the Olympic wrestler teaching it in the links provided, then watch them use it in matches and the UFC etc. Regardless of what jubs says happens the videos show a completely different reality from the theory he is trying to spout.

You will fight like you train, you've seen the training videos and how wrestlers "face off" with the tops of their heads nearly touching, and you've seen how the double leg is taught. The set up you add in won't change the trained habits or how the takedown functions on a skeletal level.

Since its clear that it's beyond his capability to explain the double leg takedowns usage, I'll take a shot at it.

First throw a strike to try and make the opponent cover up thus exposing his midsection, make sure the strike is a real even if your intent is the takedown.

You need to penetrate quickly or he'll block your approach, so do a quick level change by bending the knees and weaving your head under his armpit.

Get a firm grip on the backs of his knees (the hands behind the legs help prevent them from sprawling), but don't try to lift him off the ground, instead focus on moving him laterally instead of flipping him onto his back.

Once you have a firm hold take short choppy steps across your opponents stance to keep him off balance and unsure of where you're going.

Use your head to drive the upper body over the lower body thus steering him. Your head and upper body will follow your eyes. So look across the back of your opponent in the direction you want him to go: sideways and down.

Spike your forward shoulder directly into your opponents midsection as he crashes to the ground.

No matter how you cut it, the head is still exposed the moment you shift from strike to shoot meaning when you change levels and your hands seek the back of his knees, as in the strike ends and the Double leg begins.

[knifethrower]

"As well"? I have never removed any claims from this forum. Maybe you have been sniffing too many hair gel fumes.

Now now jubaji, those hair comments are becoming a little too revealing for all of us. I think you need to lay off these comments.

Yes...your gay...I'm not and don't want that kind of glimpse into your life. However, we accept you and the way you are and I for one love you (but not in a gay way so try to pull back on your ever so suppressed sexual excitement of people paying attention to you)

You like long hair, but king is happily married and doesn't need these little hints you keep trying to give him.

I'm sure you have enough sites to go to for that kind of outlet and I'm sure it will be well received

[Junka]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Junka View Post
It was designed for wrestling where the competitors aren't worried about strikes.
If you are shooting with your head leaning out in front of the rest of you, you will have a lot to worry about.

This is where I'm I'm getting confused. This was about the double leg at some point and then you posted a vid of a 'duck under'. Why was that relevant?

Do arms lead or does head lead in a double leg, proper technique?

[USArmyBJJ]

Evidently you solved some riddle here, eh?



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I'm not really certain what you mean with this. I was responding to KOTF's statement that, to shoot with your back straight, you'd have to be in a sitting position and wouldn't have forward movement. So, I said, "You go to a kneeling position and drive with your back leg." Maybe I'm confused. What do you mean?