Traditional Kung FU

[kingoftheforest]

- Multiple opponents is a bit hard to do for the striking art, unless you allow knock down (not sure how long you can keep your students that way).

Your logic seems a bit off here.

[csc]

- Multiple opponents is a bit hard to do for the striking art, unless you allow knock down (not sure how long you can keep your students that way).

- For the ground game arts, this may be hard to do too. Not sure what could happen if I get you into an armbar, at the same time, someone chokes me from behind, or 2 guys try to apply armbar on you at the same time.

- For the stand up throwing art, you can put many guys on the map. Anybody can wrestle with anybody, 1 against 1, or many against 1. Whoever is the last person remains standing will be the winner. This will be a safe and fun game.

[tenzen]

this is a good method, did you ever do multiple opponents. this is very fun and good training.

[csc]

In my school, we used sparring as part of the warm up. You make 2 large circles, one inside the other. The person in the inside circle spars with the person in the outside circle. 1 minute later, the inside circle rotate to the right so everybody will have a new partner. After 10 minutes, the reqular class will then star. I believe it's an excellent training method by uaing the sparring as part of the warm up.

[tenzen]

there are wing chun schools that actively spar. i am from the wong leung sheung lineage and we spar alot. well when i was active in it we sparred alot, i have practiced many martial arts. and i still do, but our wing chun was very much into pressure testing our fighting ability so as to remain functional.

[csc]

Your logic does not make sense. You don't know me, how can you judge my personal experience from your end of computer?

I'm just explaining what "chain kicks" is. Whether or not you believe what I have said is not my concern.

A: I'm willing to die for you.
B: But you never did.

It's very hard to prove everything that you have said.

[Kintanon]

Unfortunately for you your word is meaningless. I would like some kind of evidence of this technique working in an alive setting. It might be a great technique, it might work fantastically, but I don't believe you've ever done it in a resisting setting, and I don't believe you've ever broke anyones leg with it.

[csc]

Yes! I broke someone's leg once by stepping my foot on his knee joint. My LF brother Nelson Zou in NYC (he used to run 5 Tigers Club in NYC) can do chain kicks much better than me.

[Kintanon]

The chain kicks is a long fist skill and not a Wing Chun skill. You use your foot to constantly step on your opponent's knee 45 degree downward. If your opponent pulls that leading leg off the ground in order to avoid being stepped, the moment that he puts that foot down, you step on that knee again.

In order for your opponent to be able to punch you, he has to put weight on his "leading" leg. If you keep interrupt him and don't give him a chance to shift weight into his front leg, he cannot punch you. You have just put your opponent into a defense mode which is to your advantage. the chain kicks is like to use machine gun to shot at someone's feet and force him to dance up and down. It's an excellent fighting strategy.

I'm sure you believe that to be the case, have you ever actually done this against someone actively trying to beat you down?

[csc]

chain kicking

The chain kicks is a long fist skill and not a Wing Chun skill. You use your foot to constantly step on your opponent's knee 45 degree downward. If your opponent pulls that leading leg off the ground in order to avoid stepping, the moment that he puts that foot down, you step on that knee again.

In order for your opponent to be able to punch you, he has to put weight on his "leading" leg. If you keep interrupt him and don't give him a chance to shift weight into his front leg, he cannot punch you. You have just put your opponent into a defense mode, and force him to play your foot stepping game (assume you have better chain kicks skill than his) which is to your advantage. the chain kicks is like to use machine gun to shot at someone's feet and force him to dance up and down. It's an excellent fighting strategy. When your opponent pays attention on your foot, it give you chance to punch on his face.

[Kintanon]

You know, 99% of these theoretical technique questions about chain kicking and other tomfoolery would be answered if Wing Chun (and most other Kung Fu) practitioners actually did some real sparring at some point...

[tenzen]

i saw one of those green dragon videos at a friends house once. it lowered my iq significantly. very poor quality in my opinion.

[clfsean]

Tam's 64 kicking methods.

Sounds like that Green Dragon video stuff...

[kingoftheforest]

It's all about timing, angles and foot work.

A karate guy is using straight line stepping and attacking.

A FMA guy uses triangular stepping and striking similar to splitting the circle (like Hsing Yi.)

KF guys use circular stepping and striking.

All the arts use the same strikes and attacks, only the footwork and the path they flow through change.

Changing the footwork and the travel space changes the timing.

2 arms, 2 legs, can only do so much.

[Ben Grimm]

Chain Kicking (at least from what I picked up from a WT guy) is used when you are on the ground and you kick one after the other. (A bicycle kick)