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  • TTEscrima
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    Originally posted by Da Pope View Post
    It is apparent that you have very little fighting experience. To put yourself at such a disadvantage ie keeping your arms crossed (folded) is not a good idea IMO.

    The majority of martial arts are EXERCISES to develope some sort of ATTRIBUTE. There are many better non threating postures that can be taken that allow for freeing the arms. So why train an attribute that is so obviously flawed?

    Also once the initiative has been taken, ie the fight has started, then at that time having your arms free is surely the most sensible thing to do?

    Well, since you seem to feel anyone with this idea has very little fighting experience, I think its appropriate to mention some of the people who advocated the crossed arms "interview stance." Now I have no idea who you are or what your experience may be, but I know full well the experience some of these men have:

    William Fairbairn, Carl Cestari, Jim Grover, Tony Blauer all advocate the crossed arm interview position as do countless other recognized experts in the field of Military, LEO and personal defense tactics.

    YouTube - Tony Blauer on the Startle/Flinch Response
    Last edited by TTEscrima; 08-18-2009, 06:20 AM.

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  • kingoftheforest
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    Originally posted by Da Pope View Post
    Thats somewhat disingenuous but hey thats fine I suppose my initial posts where also in a similar vein.
    And talking sh*t about someone on another forum, then pretending to be polite on another isn't.

    Don't act so innocent.

    And now for something completely different.......... - No BS MMA and Martial Arts


    What is this guy saying???? - No BS MMA and Martial Arts

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  • kingoftheforest
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    Originally posted by Da Pope View Post
    It is apparent that you have very little fighting experience. To put yourself at such a disadvantage ie keeping your arms crossed (folded) is not a good idea IMO.

    The majority of martial arts are EXERCISES to develope some sort of ATTRIBUTE. There are many better non threating postures that can be taken that allow for freeing the arms. So why train an attribute that is so obviously flawed?

    Also once the initiative has been taken, ie the fight has started, then at that time having your arms free is surely the most sensible thing to do?
    Do what you want. Nobody's telling you to do different.

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  • Da Pope
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    Originally posted by Tant01 View Post
    It only LOOKS like a "massive advantage". Can you say "weak counterpart position"?

    It's an EXERCISE to develope attributes from a NON threatening "stance".

    To make idiots ask "WTF?"

    It is apparent that you have very little fighting experience. To put yourself at such a disadvantage ie keeping your arms crossed (folded) is not a good idea IMO.

    The majority of martial arts are EXERCISES to develope some sort of ATTRIBUTE. There are many better non threating postures that can be taken that allow for freeing the arms. So why train an attribute that is so obviously flawed?

    Also once the initiative has been taken, ie the fight has started, then at that time having your arms free is surely the most sensible thing to do?

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  • Da Pope
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    Originally posted by kingoftheforest View Post
    Not to mention, I'm not going to be just standing in front of the guy like Haji going

    "Sim sim sala bim!!!"

    The name of the video was "offline". The explanations were for getting offline and or smothering your opponents chance to attack.

    But I don't expect much from a group that listens to "Eargrind" and thinks my wife is my daughter.
    Thats somewhat disingenuous but hey thats fine I suppose my initial posts where also in a similar vein.

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  • Movement
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    sorry I really cannot see myself trying this in an actual combat situation, and KOTF you know what my background is and you know I must have seen some pretty hairy situations.

    but if this has worked for you thats great but to me I like my teeth and would rather protect them

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  • kingoftheforest
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    Originally posted by Bjjexpertise@be View Post
    Keep those videos coming! LOL at the clip of your wife and a bag of chips.

    Just watched your video with the attacks and defense from crossed arms and I gotta say, before anybody disses it, he's showing a video on what you could do when you're either unprepared with your hands for an attack or need to take an unassuming pose.

    Have you ever done any work from the hands together position? My only experience is just encounters at bars, and even then they're usually diffused with words or bouncers, but in those situations where someone is trying to escalate a fight I always find myself assuming a kind of position with my hands like I"m praying. I feel like that it's very un aggressive as far as body language goes and I could easily move for an attack as my hands are already up if the situation does escalate.
    That is a more than valid position to take.

    It allows you to use a "dive" or "spear" type move to come in the door with.

    And could still easily conceal a small blade.

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  • Bjjexpertise@be
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    Keep those videos coming! LOL at the clip of your wife and a bag of chips.

    Just watched your video with the attacks and defense from crossed arms and I gotta say, before anybody disses it, he's showing a video on what you could do when you're either unprepared with your hands for an attack or need to take an unassuming pose.

    Have you ever done any work from the hands together position? My only experience is just encounters at bars, and even then they're usually diffused with words or bouncers, but in those situations where someone is trying to escalate a fight I always find myself assuming a kind of position with my hands like I"m praying. I feel like that it's very un aggressive as far as body language goes and I could easily move for an attack as my hands are already up if the situation does escalate.

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  • Tant01
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    What???

    Originally posted by kingoftheforest View Post
    With as much respect as I can give to a man I never met in person................


    That's bullshit....................

















    Sir

    .................

    I always get in trouble when I start thinking I know stuff.

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  • kingoftheforest
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    Originally posted by Tant01 View Post
    next to nothing?
    With as much respect as I can give to a man I never met in person................


    That's bullshit....................

















    Sir

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  • Tant01
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    I know...

    Originally posted by TTEscrima View Post


    For a guy who doesn't know anything you sure fill in the blanks well.

    next to nothing?

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  • kingoftheforest
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    Originally posted by Tant01 View Post
    Exactly...





    It only LOOKS like a "massive advantage". Can you say "weak counterpart position"?

    It's an EXERCISE to develope attributes from a NON threatening "stance".

    To make idiots ask "WTF?"
    .....................

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  • kingoftheforest
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    Not to mention, I'm not going to be just standing in front of the guy like Haji going

    "Sim sim sala bim!!!"

    The name of the video was "offline". The explanations were for getting offline and or smothering your opponents chance to attack.

    But I don't expect much from a group that listens to "Eargrind" and thinks my wife is my daughter.

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  • TTEscrima
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    Originally posted by Tant01 View Post
    Exactly...





    It only LOOKS like a "massive advantage". Can you say "weak counterpart position"?

    It's an EXERCISE to develope attributes from a NON threatening "stance".

    To make idiots ask "WTF?"


    For a guy who doesn't know anything you sure fill in the blanks well.

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  • Tant01
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    Why indeed...

    Originally posted by mellow View Post
    Don't knock it until you try it. I found I can whip out hammerfists, backfists, knifehands, and even a 4 inch blade in both the standard and reverse grips just as fast as any hand position I've tried. The thing is it looks like your arms are tied up, it's a rather deceptive position.
    Personally I really like the elbow work. I've found that even if you screw up there is a good chance you can catch their punches on your elbows (oh, so sorry!)
    Exactly...


    Originally posted by Da Pope View Post
    Why give your opponent such a massive advantage?

    I want my arms free to cover as much range as possible for instance how are you gonna cover a jab followed with a shot at the floating ribs with your arms crossed.................your just not simple.

    It only LOOKS like a "massive advantage". Can you say "weak counterpart position"?

    It's an EXERCISE to develope attributes from a NON threatening "stance".

    To make idiots ask "WTF?"

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