Ngo Cho Kun

[konghan]

No, Millie, that is TRULY not worth the money. You are being ripped off.

You willnot learn to defend yourself like that.

You aren't even building strength symmetrically.

He is ripping you off.

maybe the money part, yes. But the horse stance for 45 minute yes it will be worth your while, it is a true traditional approache. Build up the foundation first.

Once your stance becomes sturdy and firm the next step is to learn how to combine that with your fist and eventually will lead to develop your strength, power, concentration and chi energy.

[Innocence]

hehe, for some reason I think millie is a lot more learned that he/she comes across as. Probably just a small language barrier~

But I agree with konghan. (acutally depends what currency though :P)

[millie]

how can nan shaolin kung fu be appied for self defence

just a question

[konghan]

Can internal force be trained?
One can experience spirtual joy?
How does sterching improve ones strenght?
Relaxed breathing is important.
The air we breath in is super-saturated with oxegen hence its not deep breathing thats important its the transfer of oxegen to the organs as in yi gung. Reverse breathing and the other breathing tech used in ngo cho can be of use in ordinary every day situations,
if we make nan shaolin part of our daily lives, we then embrace the founders of the systems family beliefs and honour the ancesters of the system.
Nan shaolin ngo cho kun is a way of life as well as way of ending life.

Internal force force can be train through constant doing of forms in conjunction with breathing.

With a healthier physical body one can have a clearer mind to judge and differentiate between right and wrong that eventually led to spiritual contentment.

Stretching improve flexibility and mobility strength comes from muscle tensioning and other drills like push ups, bench press etc.

Breathing is to remove staled air inside our body system and bring in fresh air to enhance and improve blood circulation as well as strengthen internal organs.

Deep breathing is to increase the pressure to enhance proper circulation in our vains and push out any small clots.

Compare this with a water pump, a pump will need proper air pressure to push and deliver water to all its designated areas. At the same time a pump need water or liquid for air to push without liquid the pump will break down, without air pressure the pump is useless.

To embrace ngo cho kun is to become part of a family that practices ngo cho kun as way to stay healthy, as a way to preserve our ancestors deeds and as a way of learning self defense. It is a way of life not a way of ending life.

[millie]

I understand what your saying but.

all martial arts are

[Innocence]

There hasnt been much activity, so I thought I'd ask if anyone here practices WuChi (which is a complementary soft style of ngor chor)?

How do you find it? How is it different to any other internal systems that you've practiced?

[konghan]

There hasnt been much activity, so I thought I'd ask if anyone here practices WuChi (which is a complementary soft style of ngor chor)?

How do you find it? How is it different to any other internal systems that you've practiced?

Me, I do not know wu chi but what I do is, to train internally is to do my ngo cho kun in a slower and rhythmic phase with coordinated breathing, works very well I do this espcially if I have sore muscles from heavy workouts of my ngo cho kun.

[Innocence]

haha~ i see!
when do the forms at a slower speed, are you using the same power? or is it...say, 40% speed and 40% power too...?
Also, do you break a sweat?

[konghan]

haha~ i see!
when do the forms at a slower speed, are you using the same power? or is it...say, 40% speed and 40% power too...?
Also, do you break a sweat?

At slower speed it is done with rythmic grace and fluidity it is good for warm up and cool down, you will sweat slowly until you are ready to go full power.

[SergeTk]

Wu Ji Quan is only taught in Chee Kim Thong lineage as complementary style of ngor chor.

But in reallity it doesn't really matter if you do it or not. Everything you can find in Wu Ji is also included in Wu Zu , but wu Ji does have some good internal forms like Wah Toa.

Innocence I assume you from England or Ireland right?

[Innocence]

I haven't been taught wuchi so was wondering about it, not to find more combat applications or anything like that, I just wanted something to do when my family is sound asleep haha~ (not to wake them up!)

I'm actually from the land down under.
(Australia)

Thanks for your input you two~

I'd like to share something that happened a few weeks ago, not very exciting, but nonetheless.
I "cross trained" with a friend who does Aikido. She is quite skinny, and has been training for less than half the time I have. I was very curious to see how other arts deal with a heavy punch.

I threw it, and she side stepped (blending with the punch...mmm, she did okay i guess ), and tried to grab my wrist and pull me forward (some sort of throw i suppose?) but she couldn't, and she said that "your stances are really good".

I just wanted to remark...I think she expected me to extend my punch away from my body, away from my centre of gravity...she didnt think that I would step in so solidly with our stance right behind [under] us, generating all the forward force, without ever over-extending, and also the stability of the stance. It would be quite hard to pull me off my stance.

Conclusion = our stance is great guys! I hope you are training it!!

[SergeTk]

Hmmm So you from Sydney .

Yes rooting is most important part , with out rooting you can't use your mid sectiong to generate power. Or anything else.

Tell me is your teacher GM Chee's son?
Also could you tell me a bit about your school ?

[Innocence]

haha, damn i shouldnt have responded to the "Innocence I assume you from England or Ireland right?" haha~

I think being anonymous is better, since it gives the whole unity of ngor chor a chance. I dont want to get into the whole "my master is better than yours" or "my lineage is better than yours". We're all practicing the same thing anyway, and slight differences aside, I think the core of it, and esp after long practice, will be the same.

Yes sir I train under GMChee's son. Our school...well, we arent as organised as Ireland's club that's for sure (those guys are great!) but we get together for weekly training at various locations on different days. Recently, we've started random "extracurricular" activities.
We are worked quite hard at training, and I often find myself sweating like...as if it was raining sweat! :P
What else would you like to know?

Haha, rooting, yes that's what it's called. It is very good. I remember after about 1.5years training, one day my stance just rooted itself. That was so amazing, because before, it was very "floaty", and I could never figure out how to "root" it. It just comes after a while I guess~

[SergeTk]

Reason I asked about your school is , my family is moving to OZ next year and I might also go. So

[Innocence]

i see~
if you do come over, feel free (you're very welcome to) to pm me to about training times and what not!!

I stumbled across this. people might want to check it out if this isnt "old news" haha~

http://www.yongchunbaihechuen.com/videos/bafen_yuanzeming.avi

6mb, white crane video
Their hand movements remind me of ours (haha, i'm a smart one [sarcasm]) but it's interesting to watch!

They have other videos there on their site, including a samchien form.