Tai Chi,good self-defense art or not?

[treelizard]

if you or your teacher learned it from any of the following, hell yes!!! sheeple fitness centers, redbook, ladies home journal, Vogue's annual fitness issue, the local mcdojo...

Wasn't that what I was saying?!?!?!?!

Oh, wait. Excuse me. How dare you insult people learning taiji from ladies home journal! For every person who learned it from Vogue, I can find you TEN mma guys who learned from Maxim, and they got beat up harder!!!

[jubaji]

Well hey If he really was teaching Tai chi at a BALLYS (as your pm to me indicated) I hope they kicked his ass good and hard. That crap at fitness centers is NOT Tai Chi Chuan!!! Any idiot who tries to sell that crap as anything other than half-assed exercise ought to be beaten to death...serves 'em right for LYING to thier victims eeerrrr students

Who the hell goes to Ballys to learn SD???? or do ANYTHING remotely resembling real working out...

Be careful. You could hurt yourself changing faces all the time like that.

[BoarSpear]

Are you really saying that taiji doesn't work for self-defense??

if you or your teacher learned it from any of the following, hell yes!!!
sheeple fitness centers, redbook, ladies home journal, Vogue's annual fitness issue, the local mcdojo...

christ I'd rather learn from a rope sandle wearin' toaster transport specialist who learned from a green haired dope smokin hippie on video than Ballys...you'd have a better chance of finding the real thing.....

[treelizard]

Are you really saying that taiji doesn't work for self-defense??

[BoarSpear]

Sent the details I have (name, location, where they guy used to teach, etc.) to Boar. I won't post about it publically unless I find it published somewhere. I didn't get the instructor's number, but my friend is passing my number onto him. I'm not sure if he'll want to talk about it or not. But I told her I was going to do an article on real life self-defense stories and different arts, as in, what worked and what didn't. So if he does get back to me and anybody wants to give me a "tai chi worked for me in the streets" story that has passed the statute of limitations, let me know.

Well hey If he really was teaching Tai chi at a BALLYS (as your pm to me indicated) I hope they kicked his ass good and hard. That crap at fitness centers is NOT Tai Chi Chuan!!! Any idiot who tries to sell that crap as anything other than half-assed exercise ought to be beaten to death...serves 'em right for LYING to thier victims eeerrrr students

Who the hell goes to Ballys to learn SD???? or do ANYTHING remotely resembling real working out...

[treelizard]

BoarSpear told me I had to tell everyone that he taught taiji at Bally's. Which proves my point, btw...which was (drumroll please) make sure you have a good teacher and a reputable dojo (or whatever they call it in CMA) when learning taiji as self-defense. What, wasn't that what I was saying?

[treelizard]

Sent the details I have (name, location, where they guy used to teach, etc.) to Boar. I won't post about it publically unless I find it published somewhere. I didn't get the instructor's number, but my friend is passing my number onto him. I'm not sure if he'll want to talk about it or not. But I told her I was going to do an article on real life self-defense stories and different arts, as in, what worked and what didn't. So if he does get back to me and anybody wants to give me a "tai chi worked for me in the streets" story that has passed the statute of limitations, let me know.

[BoarSpear]

If you think thats fuked up you should see my form

I have Dont tell me its gotten any more ...You and those "private" lessons from MB

[knifethrower]

Wow I'm astonished that didnt work out, a Texan trying to learn Taiji in Japan...way to integrate into the culture you should have taken up ninjutsu

If you think thats fuked up you should see my form

[knifethrower]

Earles definately a good place to start

This guy doesn’t think so…

Doesn't he have a book out about "Dim Mak"?

If so his credibility is rather low in my most humble opinion.

I thought I’d quote him and get him pist off too “wank stain” hehehe he kills me

[treelizard]

Update: got a voicemail message from the woman who trained with the taiji instructor who got beat up. Got his first name and her version of the story and that's about it, we are playing phone tag so I don't have all the details but will get them soon esp. if I get his full name so I can look for it in the newspaper in the library more easily.

[7r14ngL3Ch0k3]

Oh no, these dudes are I)3/\<|[`/
http://www.taijiquan-institut.de/images/kaiser10.jpg

[BoarSpear]

Is someone speaking to me again??? Can’t I take a bong hit in peace!?!?

NO....

yep, for me it was

I was looking in Tokyo.

Wow I'm astonished that didnt work out, a Texan trying to learn Taiji in Japan...way to integrate into the culture you should have taken up ninjutsu

[BoarSpear]

Earles definately a good place to start

[knifethrower]

I will agree that it is damn near impossible to find a good Tai chi teacher who has used the art in real life...wouldn't you agree Knifethrower?

Is someone speaking to me again??? Can’t I take a bong hit in peace!?!?

"damn near impossible"? Wow

yep, for me it was

I was looking in the Southeast Texas/ Southwest Louisiana area, Aspen and other areas of Colorado, and Tokyo. I’ve looked in a lot of other places but didn’t look long enough to give it a fair chance. The whole search took about 20 years. If you want I can give more details.

After the internet was up and running I found this guy

http://www.taijiworld.com/welcome.htm

Erle Montaigue

Seems I've seen that guy's name kicked around quite a bit as a fraud. But Idunno...

Yep, I just done hung a bear