Tai Chi,good self-defense art or not?

[taoistscholar]

yup, this is only according to me

tell me why you think otherwise

[jubaji]

yup, this is only according to me

tell me why you think otherwise

Because I've met and trained with people who thought and taught it as a MA like (in that way) any other.

[taoistscholar]

but is that the true tai chi, or is it just another style like wing chun or choy li fut.
Is it really an INTERNAL martial art, or is it external.

Maybe the movements, attacks, stances and fists are from a tai chi form, but that doesnt seem any different than any other martial art on this planet. Anybody can make movements up and call them something. Right?

and in my opinion, applying tai chi form to fighting seems really ineffective

[jubaji]

but is that the true tai chi

Yes





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[taoistscholar]

Tai chi translates into "grand ultimate"

what YOU call "true tai chi" isnt anymore grand or ultimate than say jiu jitsu

What internal aspects do you have associated with it?

[jubaji]

taijiquan

Tai chi translates into "grand ultimate"

You left out a word

[taoistscholar]

and what word would that be?

fist?

[jubaji]

Because I've met and trained with people who thought and taught it as a MA like (in that way) any other.

How 'bout you?

[taoistscholar]

Ive met and trained with people who teach it as a MA another way i guess.

you still havent taught me the internal aspect of your training.

what you describe seems more external. Application is strictly external.

if so it makes this discussion purposless because were talking about two completely different paths to mastery (if that even exists)

[jubaji]

Ive met and trained with people who teach it as a MA another way i guess.

you still havent taught me the internal aspect of your training.

what you describe seems more external. Application is strictly external.

if so it makes this discussion purposless because were talking about two completely different paths to mastery (if that even exists)

Oh I see, you are another one getting obsessed with labels and shit. Good luck with that 'scholar.'

[taoistscholar]

by labels are you meaning names?

[TTEscrima]

by labels are you meaning names?

Anything that describes the art like names or the proper terminology makes him nervous and defensive, pay attention you'll see the pattern.

His Tai Chi is so special it has no names or terminology to "limit" it much less directions for its use and practice.

[jubaji]

Anything that describes the art like names or the proper terminology

Is the beginning and end of MA training as far as 'Theory Boy' there is considered. He's a badass as long as he's sitting around braiding his master's ponytail and memorizing his Yugiyo cards. But if there happens to be a wet paperbag around he's in trouble.

[TTEscrima]

Is the beginning and end of MA training as far as 'Theory Boy' there is considered. He's a badass as long as he's sitting around braiding his master's ponytail and memorizing his Yugiyo cards. But if there happens to be a wet paperbag around he's in trouble.

You're full of comments so long as they aren't required to contain martial knowledge eh? I don't even what the **** a Yugiyo card IS so I guess it's clear who is into THAT. As far as the hair my teacher has, you're envious of everything Boar has, his skill, knowledge, respect in the martial community, friends, students and hair, what a sad little poser you are.

BTW, multiple people have vetted Boar and his skills and have posted to that effect on this board and others, you're simply regarded as one of the biggest trolls on the net on this board and others, big difference boy.

You might also be interested in knowing it's just YOU who has problems with paper bags. Since all your "wrestling" to get to your lunch makes your fingers too sore to type maybe you could ask your mommy not to roll the tops down so tight on the bags.

[jubaji]

As far as the hair my teacher has, you're envious of everything Boar has, his ego, theories, weak-minded followers to braid his hair, secret superpowers too deadly for da street, hair, hair, hair, a lack of shame over looking like a fool with a ponytail...

Wow, that's a good point.