Throwing

[jubaji]

ok captain illogical...

sports and its associated mentallity had everything to do with it...Big boy used wrestling tactics in a real fight...the soldier used tactics he learned in the military...the soldier won. Whats so hard to understand?

And if that particular soldier in that particular situation on that particular day had lost, would you stop everything you are doing and devote your entire life to wrestling?

[jubaji]

its the details that get you killed...think about tito in his street fight...

Are you implying that the one incident you know about is the only time in his life that that gentleman had ever been in a street fight? How have you come across that info?

[jubaji]

...dont forget i wrestle and do JJJ and studied gjj....

I can just imagine! *snicker*

[jubaji]

Well i might aswell put my 2 cents in. What I was tought in the army if some dude goes for a leg or double leg shot you bring your elbows down into his back and put your knee through his face

Well, that might well be a good option depending on where he's starting his shot from, how he has set it up, and most of all who he is (how fast, how big, how strong, how good, etc)

A lot of folks (who apparently are not very fond of themselves) shoot from waaaaaaaaaaay too far away. In that case, you can see it coming a mile away and have time to position yourself for this that or the other thing. A good shot should start from within a comfortable arm's reach, and shouldn't begin unless properly set up (to move the other fella into a position that makes completing the shot as likely as possible and defending it as unlikely as possible).

A lot of folks seem to assume that what is likely to have a good chance of success against a lousy shot from a lousy shooter is the "answer" to all leg shots.

[jubaji]

In Tiger/Crane kung fu we spend A LOT of time on eye gouges. We spend about as much time on setting up and executing strikes to the eyes as we did practicing taking shots when I was a wrestler.

The difference is that you really did practice shots full out when you were wrestling and you have never practiced the eye gouge full out. That has to be a significant consideration at the very least.

[jubaji]

...that turns into flame wars because people cant be realistic with their pride on the line....

Gee, ya don't say...

[BoarSpear]

And if that particular soldier in that particular situation on that particular day had lost, would you stop everything you are doing and devote your entire life to wrestling?

sux to practice the art that lost the real fight with 110 lb weight advantage and the weapon dont it punk? no man..see i would have the gracie excuse when Helio lost...well gee the wrestler had a 40 lb weight advantage and a weapon !!

but guess what skippy,the wrestler lost ...only this one had a 110 lbs and a weapon and still lost so it isnt my martial arts in in question its your sport

[jubaji]

sux to practice the art that lost the real fight -

I honestly find it hard to believe that you could possibly be as stupid as you seem determined to present yourself.

"the art" didn't lose "the fight", shitforbrains, "a person" lost "a fight".

If I told you that I personally saw a CMA teacher get beat up by a small, skinny woman in the street, would that completely discredit CMA in your book?

According to your (il)logic, every form of fighting or self defense is illegitimate.

[BoarSpear]

I honestly find it hard to believe that you could possibly be as stupid as you seem determined to present yourself.

"the art" didn't lose "the fight", shitforbrains, "a person" lost "a fight".

If I told you that I personally saw a CMA teacher get beat up by a small, skinny woman in the street, would that completely discredit CMA in your book?

According to your (il)logic, every form of fighting or self defense is illegitimate.

so it isnt the art, its the man in the art...

AH thank you lord...I wondered just how long it would be until you finally woke up and realized that...now STFU ABOUT THE TMA'S ....I DONT CARE ABOUT COLLEGE WRESTLING...IT ISNT A MARTIAL ART. SINCE YOU REALIZE/ADMIT ITS THE MAN AND NOT THE SYSTEM THEN ALL THE BJJ/GJJ/MMA/WRESTLING BEING SUPERIOR IS EGOTISTICAL BULLSHIT RIGHT? SO SINCE YOU FINALLY REALIZED THIS CAN WE TMA PEOPLE DISCUSS THE ARTS WE CHOSE TO PRACTICE WITHOUT THE GREAT JUBAJI BUTTING IN WITH "........... "?

[jubaji]

so it isnt the art, its the man in the art...

AH thank you lord...I wondered just how long it would be until you finally woke up and realized that...

"Finally realized"? What the **** do you think half the people here have been trying to get through your rotten mellon for the last 50 pages?

[jubaji]

here's your cue for more lies

...now STFU ABOUT THE TMA'S ....

What did I say about them?

[jubaji]

....I DONT CARE ABOUT COLLEGE WRESTLING...IT ISNT A MARTIAL ART.

Really? According to you?

[PFC_Kurtz_John]

Well, that might well be a good option depending on where he's starting his shot from, how he has set it up, and most of all who he is (how fast, how big, how strong, how good, etc)

A lot of folks (who apparently are not very fond of themselves) shoot from waaaaaaaaaaay too far away. In that case, you can see it coming a mile away and have time to position yourself for this that or the other thing. A good shot should start from within a comfortable arm's reach, and shouldn't begin unless properly set up (to move the other fella into a position that makes completing the shot as likely as possible and defending it as unlikely as possible).

A lot of folks seem to assume that what is likely to have a good chance of success against a lousy shot from a lousy shooter is the "answer" to all leg shots.

We are also tought how to countel alot of the other shoots. Im not saying our way will allways work. Your right though alot comes down to the persons in the fight, and thats why in the Army you have to be fit. Think though for us its less than a sec to bring a knee up about 2 inches with a ton of force

[jubaji]

ALL THE BJJ/GJJ/MMA/WRESTLING BEING SUPERIOR IS EGOTISTICAL BULLSHIT RIGHT?

When exactly did I say that?

[jubaji]

CAN WE TMA PEOPLE DISCUSS THE ARTS WE CHOSE TO PRACTICE WITHOUT THE GREAT JUBAJI BUTTING IN WITH "........... "?

I can't be a "TMA PEOPLE"? I can't comment?




....guess what?