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  • crusader
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    Just some more stuff made up by a fake who issues faked challenges as those to some members of this board, but shew the white feather as Tommy's student called him. Hey, what happened to his invitation as Glasgow is not overseas?

    "Peter Daniels" is not your real name, as you aint real, man. Or am I wrong that you're a man?

    Just an example of a big load of doctored stuff, sent to a student of Pat Strong just shows what a sick individual you are:

    From: "PeterDaniels Daniels"
    To:
    Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 12:26 PM
    Subject: Re: Wed Night Forum


    > Hi Rafael,
    >
    > I am still shocked and stunned at your utterly disgraceful conduct, and
    > feel very sorry for your Instructor Patrick Strong, having a student such
    > as yourself. I think you have deep rooted problems too, first the Jekyll
    > & Hyde act on Tim Tackett's forum, ranting & swearing like a school kid,
    > then pretending to be all nice, even praising Tim's books. Is not exactly
    > indicative of a well balanced individual.
    >
    > Then you said you doubted Patrick Strong's training times in email, and
    > then deny you said it - that is the lowest of the low. Worse, though I
    > never saw them I persume you altered some of my emails then sent them to
    > Patrick, to make it look like you had never doubted his training times.
    > Shameful behaviour. Patrick is your instructor, so sure he will probably
    > believe your version, you know the truth though, that you did doubt his
    > training times, and then tried to cover your tracks.
    >
    > You also said you had beaten Rickson Gracie at his gym, Don Wilson in
    > Kickboxing, and a King of The Cage champion in MMA competition. After
    > mentioning this on Tim's forum you denied all of that, then admitted
    > beating the King of the Cage champion but changed it very conviently from
    > competition to the street, so as to avoid any proof like event, date, name
    > of opponent.
    >
    > Using reverse psychology anyone with a modicum of intelligence would
    > realise you are not telling the truth, anyone would have laughed it off or
    > ignored it, or responded once; not responded several times in email & on
    > the forum repeating the same things and protesting your innocence.
    >
    > Incidentally, you now have lifetime ban from 4 prominent JKD organisations
    > should you ever attempt to join them, I am awaiting confirmation from 7
    > others that should also want nothing to do with you. In the JKD world, I
    > am very respected and know a great many people, a simple phone call or
    > email with a name, is suffice for people to want nothing whatsoever with
    > that individual. The 4 thus far, if you attempt to join them, attend
    > even a class or seminar, ask anyone to do a seminar in those
    > organisations - you will be told they want absolutely nothing to do with
    > you; will let you know on the other 7 am still awaiting confirmation they
    > will also give you lifetime ban. I did not even need to go into detail
    > or give reasons, they know me and respect me ,that your name alone was
    > enough.
    >
    > I fully expect you will do something like alter my email again, maybe to
    > fake confession from me that it was me that altered your emails? Even
    > though you know for a fact, I did no such thing, and it was you that
    > altered emails to cover your tracks.
    >
    > Be my guest , if you want to alter this email , I won't contact Patrick
    > Strong again, so feel free to do so with it.
    >
    > Regarding the challenge, you have been quiet or rather silent on this
    > front, I think deep down you aare aware that you are not a particularly
    > talented martial artist, those I've spoken to that know you describe you
    > as very average indeed , with delusions of grandeur that you are better
    > than you actually are, which might explain the ranting and raving, and
    > tough talk attempts.
    >
    > Several people I know that saw your messages on Tim Tackett's forum,
    > contacted me with support saying your conduct was disgraceful, and Patrick
    > Strong should be deeply ashamed and embarrassed to have such a student
    > representing him in public. As they say 'you can fool some of the people,
    > some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time',
    > many see through your charades.
    >
    > Again, please alter this message as much as you like and forward it to
    > Patrick Strong, as though he does support you as you are his student, in
    > the back of his mind, he does have his own doubts that you did indeed
    > badmouth him in emails and said you doubted his training times. You know
    > you did badmouth him, the fact you went to such elaborate lengths to cover
    > your tracks is astongishing but disgraceful behaviour.
    >
    > The fact that you showed zero respect for Tim Tackett, behaving like a
    > schoolkid ranting and swearing, on his forum, is very shameful behaviour
    > too. If Patrick Strong suppots the way you conduct yourself , then I
    > feel genuinely sorry for him.
    > Bye,
    >
    > Peter Daniels.

    >>From: "PeterDaniels Daniels"
    To:
    Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 12:32 PM
    Subject: RE: WEASLE


    >
    > Look, you messed with the best and got laid to rest. I do not especially
    > like discussing with very much Intellectual inferiors like yourself,
    > consider yourself fortunate I did and I hope you have learned something in
    > the process, pherhaps some humility and respect also. I am a highly
    > skilled Mass Debater , you on the other hand are a highly skilled
    > Mas-tur-Bator , that is something very different indeed. Come back when
    > you have an IQ , in the meantime BITE ME POOPY PANTS!
    >
    >>From: "r figueroa"
    >>To: "PeterDaniels Daniels"
    >>Subject: WEASLE Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 09:07:23 -0700
    >>
    >>Do you think this is some game ? You keep on with your lies .
    >>
    >>Hey when can I expect to fight you ? After all your bringing the camera
    >>and friend .
    >>
    >>Your not going to weasle your way out of this one.
    >>
    >>RF-
    >>----- Original Message ----- From: "PeterDaniels Daniels"
    >>
    >>To:
    >>Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 4:25 PM
    >>Subject: Wed Night Forum
    >>
    >>
    >>>Hi there Rafael , you little FAGGOT BASTARD!
    >>>
    >>>Where are you? So you can designate a place, so I may designate your
    >>>ass.
    >>>
    >>>Nothing like some loudmouthed Gayboy on a forum in need of a lesson in
    >>>humilty, and in the martial arts.
    >>>
    >>>You won't be a problem trust me. I neglected to mention also I competed
    >>>2 years in MMA, and won a lot, competed one year Kickboxing in the ring
    >>>before that.
    >>>
    >>>When we meet one condition , it is filmed I will bring someone, and will
    >>>post it on the net. Oh and of course , no mats hard floor & no
    >>>protection of any kind, and no rules everything goes.
    >>>
    >>>Will be fun.
    >>>
    >>>Be a man, and respond to the points regarding that fucking old fart
    >>>Patrick Strong - in the Wed night forum (respond there for all to see ),
    >>>an out & out fraud & charlatan one of the worst in JKD. Full marks to
    >>>you for admitting you train under that turd. It is fucking jokes like
    >>>Patrick Strong , along with Gary Dill , etc that give JKD a real bad
    >>>name, like Strong Dill is a piss poor martial artist.
    >>>
    >>>Await your response, in the meantime, **** right off and die, quit
    >>>bumming your gay friends & go train.

    Well, this is tough and bizarre talk...

    1.) Can you name the "4 prominent JKD organizations"?

    2.) Why were you banned on Bax's as well as Tackett's forums?

    3.) Why do you back up your statements on the expense of Gary Dill as you call him a "fucking joke who give JKD a real bad name"??

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  • ASHTANGA05
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    Crusader,

    'Paki Power' is an incredibly racist & derogatory comment to make in the first instance.

    You really are on a Crusade and can't give it a rest can you?

    The facts :-

    1) You got 'your ass handed to you on a plate' in discussion and debate with me, and unfortunately your fragile ego cannot take it.

    2) I openly challenged you to meet and test your skills, you refused and made numerous lame excuses! This can be seen clearly on another forum. When I pointed this out publically and asked you to basically put up or shut up - you then did a sudden U-turn to save face & then pretended to accept the challenge , suddenly becoming Mr Tough Guy.

    Those are the facts of the matter.

    It is also widely known you have severe delusions of grandeur you are the Number 1 or one of the leading authorities on JKD & historians on BL in the World, many have said this.

    Regarding my credentials actually I was full Instructor in WT , and did indeed train with Emin Boztepe for few years in Germany & U.S. I did not grade for TG levels under him though. My name is Peter Daniels , I currently reside in Birmingham, UK, sometimes I live in London for work; not that hard to find. Actually, I've trained with many JKD guys, my skill level in martial arts is regarded by others that have seen and trained with me as very high actually.

    In all your posts you use an awful lot of circular reasoining and similar 'smoke screen' tactics, e.g. regarding Tommy Carruthers certifications (read it here on this forum) you discuss and debate his certifications WITHOUT actually ever just simply saying who you believe he is currently certified by. That would be the easiest course of action to take in such discussion, but clearly not for yourself; you went on about Tommy being on Ted Wong's former site (and so what?), but neglected to mention why he is not on the current one, you went on about Gary Dill but neglected to mention why Dill no longer recognises him & in fact tells people to avoid him like the plague.

    Just to show again clearly the circular reasoining tactic you employ very regularly - who is Tommy Carruthers currently certified in JKD by? Especially certified to teach. You will either not answer, post a long post without ever actually answering it, or such like.

    I have said exactly who I have trained with , etc ; whilst you are continually evasive about your martial arts background? What do you have to hide, as you are a real 'know it all' self proclaimed leading authority on JKD & BL , you must have an impressive training record. Or are you in fact the person you mention earlier, the one who never quite made it, trains little, and likes to debate on forums rather than train?

    You said you did WT , with whom & what TG grades did you reach? Or only student grades. You do JKD (or talk a lot on it at least) - whom did you train under & for how long, are you an Instructor under anyone? Again watch out for the evasive tactics and circular reasoining, and expect of course no direct answers.

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  • ryanwp941979
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    too bad

    that every1 who wants to have a serious discussion or fruitful
    exchange of ideas on the internet has to fight thru trouble makers.
    Maybe that is the nature of the medium

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  • Tom Yum
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    Originally posted by GonzoStyles View Post
    I like eggs........
    sunny side up?

    scrambled?

    Most of the time I enjoy scrambled eggs with toast and turkey sausage for a good, wholsome and healthy breakfast.

    Now if I'm waking up from a night out on the town, I like sunny side up with lots of toast, maybe some ham. Then using the toast to soak up some o that yoke!

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  • GonzoStyles
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    I like eggs........

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  • A Chinese Ghost Story about Ashtanga Yoga...or: Pakistani Power in JKD?

    Another strike by ASHTANGA05:

    On Tackett's JKD Wednesday Night forum he recently posed strategic question and appeared as the nice guy at first, only to have its members have their words twisted later. A thing which is really beyond the borderline within his well-known dirty tactic to issue aggressively faked challenges, was to transfer an e-mail of his opponent to the teacher of this person in which he added things on this e-mail to the teacher, in which it would make the other look like he doubted his teacher's methods and his training times ! Additonally, he even contacted Rickson Gracie and Don "The Dragon" Wilson, invented rumors that his opponent has claimed to have challenged them ! You can read about it here: http://pauljbax.forumco.com/topic~TOPIC_ID~9716.asp, http://pauljbax.forumco.com/topic~TOPIC_ID~10097.asp, http://pauljbax.forumco.com/topic~TOPIC_ID~10104.asp, http://pauljbax.forumco.com/topic~TOPIC_ID~10106.asp

    However, I can't help but some thoughts came to my mind...

    You know, I somehow have a sympathy for this Ashtanga-guy. It's obvious he admires Bruce Lee for already a long time, which is nothing wrong. On the contrary - my sympathy for Bruce goes back being a 13 year old teen.

    If he was a private student of Emin for three years within the EWTO and not one of his own instructors, there's a chance he was primarily a dummy and sparring partner for a lot of bucks, while aiming at the very basics of Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do. There's also a good chance he attended classes of a British JKD Concepts school (probably Rick Young's and / or the Krauses). All of this without ever getting what he was so hardly striving for - a skill level close to Bruce Lee's (an equal one can't possibly exist in his mind).

    So, after having spent a hell of bucks and time he realized he has just become another medicore and meaningless martial artist never achieving a skill level or honors close to his beloved idol's.

    Eventually he became disappointed by all of his former teachers for that they could lead him nowhere near to become a honorable representative of his idol's legacy, even by the Inosanto Concepts lineage which you can clearly see by his postings on this forum (Deluxe Martial Arts, JKD section).

    So, what has been left after years of what he felt like being wasted time and money, after his dream - to lead an honorable existance as a teacher of the full spectrum of true Wing Chun and JKD, (as well as Ashtanga Yoga, ) maybe providing willing and grateful students with valuable means of self-defence and self-actualization - has been broken? - A shadow existence as a cyber ghost, haunting forums in a desperate and paranoid virtual battle for his idol's legacy against its alleged or real free-riders.

    I would still give some credit to this guy - if there was a Nobel Peace Prize in JKD I would award him with it.

    First of all he never fights, he neither creates any real physical harm, nor does he represent any real threat to anybody - no FISTS OF FURY, no BLOOD AND STEEL, no GAME OF DEATH at all. Secondly, only he manages it to unite different JKD camps / groups within the internet, at least for a peaceful co-existence, by bringing up feelings of solidarity. He even lets people talk peacefully again who were at odds with each other by forum flamewars.

    I wonder if he becomes someday the credits for this to the point that this is going to be celebrated.

    We could inititate a meeting with him as THE BIG BOSS sitting on a golden throne as a symbol for his armchair approach to JKD, surrounded by his chosen victims and opponents. The session will be started by him throwing the latest gossip and rumors into the room, then railing, ranting and swearing at all participants in his well-known and hopeless egocentric monologue. Whenever they try to reply, they have their words twisted hopelessly. After a while he will invite everyone to a group session of Asthanga Yoga to cool himself down. After he has finished this successfully there will be a tea ceremony like in a traditional CHINESE (Gung Fu) CONNECTION, by which the insiders ask him forgiveness for their very activities. Finally the group will award him with an alternative to a Nobel Peace Price, a JKD certificate with a mirror (you know, like in THE SILENT FLUTE / Circle of Iron, USA, 1978) and all of his alter egos printed on it - Ashtanga, Basil, Eshal, JKDMaestro, SammyD. (The German rapper), ReekievonNinjaKeekie, etc.

    If he has then entered a moment of enlightenment ( I give him a chance for that), the group will accompany him to Taco Bell for having a farewell dinner.

    Ash can then think about to fit into the eternal buddhistic circuit of things by repeating all of this, or doing something which a forum user once has advised him to do - to go into the mountains, having Yoga sessions, drinking his own urine, and becoming one with the universe...

    As he couldn't ENTER THE WAY OF THE DRAGON, he can maybe enter Nirwana...and hopefully stay there for his own good, saving him from a further career as the well-known laughing stock of every single JKD forum.

    End of story.
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