TKD Master who found that tkd does not teach fighting

[osopardo]

Hello ijabuj,

Just practicing my spelling.

Thanks again.

Ed Barton

Do it again, Ed!

[osopardo]

What a load of hooey! haha, get your damn 3rd degree! It's important for an instructor to humble themselves and put themselves under the scrutiny of others every once in a while to remind them they aren't as good as they think or perfect. Hell I did my 4th degree last year and I barely passed..... it was very humbling, normally at all my previous rank tests I was the star of the test.... but my 4th was under Master Choi the head of my federation and he wasn't impressed.

Damian Mavis
Honour TKD

Very interesting perspective Damian, my instructor achieved 7th dan a couple of years ago (dont compare - he's much older than you) and I kept bugging him to tell me what that level of testing was like "Did they make you walk through burning coals, kwanjangnim?"

His response was "It's varies. They already know me. They know what I do. Sometimes they ask me a few questions or make me do a poomse or just take them out to lunch."

BTW - His goal is to get to ninth degree before he hits 60, yet he seems a little embarrassed by the honorifics, "Sabumnim" will do, Bear"...

[Deadman2002]

I train ITF style and certainly dont look upon it as sport as such. Yes I enter point tournaments but thats because I like the competition. Its not like every minute of the class is dedicated to being good in tournaments. In fact its only when we do some sparring at the end that we even think about sparring technique. The context is much more real opponents with no rules during most training.

[rotaryman]

fear and loathing in america

I think alot of the sparring techniques are not great on the street. I have always felt that the hapkido portion of our training in tkd was the most beneficial in a real fight followed by some grapple techniques that were taught as a once a week class along with more traditional tae kwon do workouts on other days.

[rotaryman]

sorry still getting used to the forum. My thread was in reply to the very beginning regarding teacher getting beat up.

[avelocci]

A friend who found out tkd can be a affective THE HARD WAY

Dear fellow Martial Artists,
I post to you today to tell everyone in these forums the story of how my friend found out tkd can be a affective THE HARD WAY. I'm not sure if this story will be able to match those of Damian Mavis (Who deserves the utmost respect) but all I know is that when he told me I almost cried with laughter.

During last summer my friend was at an Army Cadet camp where his dwelling was proclaimed the cleanest by the Warrant Officer and so every other tent on the camp was given 50 push ups for keeping their rooms like crack houses. Anyways it turned out that some guy, pissed off because he had to do push ups got a clump of sh*t and threw it in my friends tent. My friend Martin was pissed off so he put his book down, got up and prepared to confront the guy. It turned violent soon and Martin threw the first punch, hitting the guy in the arm. He went for another to the face but the guy blocked it, countered with a backfist to the forehead and gave him a side kick to the ribs. He than used another sidekick to hit Martin in the knee pit and as he stumbled, the guy tripped him to the ground. Anyways my friend turtled to protect all the vital organs and the guy kicked him in the ass for a few minutes. After a while my friend attempted to redeem himself as he got up but the dude did the same thing once agian but this time also landed a spinning hook kick to Martins arm on the way down. Anyways he told me that the guy kicked him in the ass for about ten minutes straight and eventually got tired and walked to the mess for a bottle of water (All that work can be tireing). It turned out that the guy was a blackbelt in TKD and used his skills affectively in a real situation. I guess it all depends on timeing and the use of your most affective weapon, the brain, in combat. Martin learned his lesson and said his ass still has nightmares about that day. Just a little story for all those interested.

Sincerly,
Andrew Velocci

[jubaji]

And the moral of the story is that your friend is not a great fighter?

[avelocci]

The moral I was going for is that TKD can be affective in combat, It depends on the person who uses it. It's like taste buds, some people like eating broccoli and some don't, I find martial arts is the same situation. Some martial arts are better for others and this is because every martial art was created by unique people and they all worked for themselves. The martial art worked for the guy in my story yet not for the master who got beaten up. That is why you have to apply a martial art to yourself and try not to change to fit it because you can never be something other than you.

Sincerly,
Andrew Velocci AKA China-white

[jubaji]

The moral I was going for is It's like taste buds, some people like eating broccoli and some don't, I find martial arts is the same situation.
-white

Is broccoli a weapon in tkd?

[avelocci]

anyways if anyone wants me 2 give some more stories im filled with them. (P.S. don't write unless your words are worth reading obviously broccolli isn't a weapon and your sarcasm is making you out to be quite the loser)

Sincerly,
Andrew Velocci

[jubaji]

unkotare

anyways if anyone wants me 2 give some more stories im filled with them. (P.S. don't write unless your words are worth reading obviously broccolli isn't a weapon

Sincerly,
Andrew Velocci

I'm quite sure you are full of it, I mean them, I mean gripping stories, but I find your hostile reaction to my humble inquiries disappointing. I come to drink from the fountain of wisdom and find only the bitter taste of a left-over beer that someone put their cigarette out in.

[avelocci]

that wasn't a cigarette, it was a peice of broccolli and the story was true

[jubaji]

that wasn't a cigarette, it was a peice of broccolli and the story was true

Someone really put broccoli in a beer?

[eXcessiveForce]

That's pretty funny. TKD works if done correctly. There are tons of stories of what people have done. I've also seen people get their ass wooped. But i've seen other MA people get their asses handed to them too.

There is always somebody out there ready for you the question is whether the guy in front of you at this moment is that person.

[avelocci]

I kno u guys want 2 hav fun and all but I came here to talk about MA and not broccolli, and so if anyone has another perpective, story or interesting point to make please post it.

Sincerly,
Andrew Velocci