Gracie Jiu Jitsu IS the best all around style!!!!

[wolfman]

Yeah i noticed it was his first post, i wont be surprised if its his last.... or if he hunts around enough he might figure out what IWB means ....LOL and try to bs his way out.....[/QUOTE]


I can shoot the BS with the best of them, but as a rule I don't say anything I'm not willing to back up. I could care less what your abrevs mean, so don't count on me wasting my time tring to "figure it out". I was also taught if you have nothing good to say about some one you should STFU. As far as sticking arround here I really don't know yet, that would depend on the intelligence level and if the topics are interesting.

[BoarSpear]

I can shoot the BS with the best of them, but as a rule I don't say anything I'm not willing to back up. I could care less what your abrevs mean, so don't count on me wasting my time tring to "figure it out". I was also taught if you have nothing good to say about some one you should STFU. As far as sticking arround here I really don't know yet, that would depend on the intelligence level and if the topics are interesting.

oh i see, you were just running your mouth about shooting martial artists, its funny how often jack offs come up with that. I have yet to see one with his gun at the moment of shit talking though...I travel to gun and knife shows selling tactical knives and self defense tapes/ seminars. i cant count the idiots who stop in front of the table watch the demo tapes running and look at thier friend and snidley remark if i saw that MF on the street i would just shoot him.
Usually about then i lean over over the table a say "ME? youre gonna shoot me? hmmm got a gun on ya?" (remember im standing at a table FULL of knives and wearing several) theryre usually like"uh.... hey ! thats you on the tape!...." (good observation skills ) I say "yeah wheres your gun?" they usually look at the floor a minute and "say in my car"....not that it would matter, if i can touch you before you reach for that gun, you aint gonna make it..... so before you join the jackass club, get a gun, learn to use it and carry it everywhere you go, or quit threating to shoot poeple....just a little friendly advise

BTW tough guy, IWB stands for inside waist band...its where most people HAVE to carry thier firearm, unless its in plain open sight, so since you didnt know that its obvious you dont carry and arent trained in combat pistolcraft, you just THINK youre a baddass....my guess is your young with little to no training in anything that is intended for surviving an actual assault (like most of the idiots i meet who spout shit like you) ....but youre quite sure youre a badass anyway....

as for not saying anything if i dont have anything nice to say.................. .......so shoot me

[Tant01]

Obviously not. I guess the Gutterfighter is bulletproof, right?
one quick question.
What makes you think just because you seen a man fight in the ring under regulations that he does'nt have any more tricks or that he can't fight just as dirty as a gutterfighter?
Just because a man holds back it does'nt mean that's all hes got.

Hey there Mr. wolfman. Don't take nuthin I type too personal, eh? I realize you may not be familiar with my (lack of) style...


I'm fond of the GJJ/BJJ game as I see it as the little brother to my Judo. That's about all I have to say about that at the moment.

"If someone points a gun at you, of course, you will be scared. But jiu-jutsu gives me the equivalent of a bullet proof shield. It protects me from head to toe, plus it gives me the ability to take a gun away."


Helio Gracie. via Doug Jeffrey. (From the April issue of GRAPPLING magazine)


And NOW you know the rest of the story....


Good day.

[OmaPlata]

Anytime there's a post I missed for a few days....I just go to the last page of comments and just know theres an argument going on with Boarspear involved in the middle of it. Pretty funny...anyway Baor, you mentioned a guy named "Wallid" or wallad a while ago while bashing BJJ guys, well I just read an article about him in Grappling magazine, he is a BJJ black belt....so find some guys other than Kimo, Wallid, Silva and whoever else you drummed up to bash the BJJ guys, because all your examples are black belts in BJJ. And Ill meet you at the Del Mar gun show if you ever make it out to Cali., I want a Tanto, cant seem to find any these days, the original "cold steel" one. My best knife now is a hand madeRandall made for me in 1972 (when I was 3)

[BoarSpear]

Anytime there's a post I missed for a few days....I just go to the last page of comments and just know theres an argument going on with Boarspear involved in the middle of it. Pretty funny...anyway Baor, you mentioned a guy named "Wallid" or wallad a while ago while bashing BJJ guys, well I just read an article about him in Grappling magazine, he is a BJJ black belt....so find some guys other than Kimo, Wallid, Silva and whoever else you drummed up to bash the BJJ guys, because all your examples are black belts in BJJ. And Ill meet you at the Del Mar gun show if you ever make it out to Cali., I want a Tanto, cant seem to find any these days, the original "cold steel" one. My best knife now is a hand madeRandall made for me in 1972 (when I was 3)

??? i was gracie bashin? i mentioned they had been beaten...several times, by a professional wrestler, and wallid for instance...thats not bashing, thats stating facts kimo is a bb in bjj? maybe now....when he put royce in the hospital he was a streetfighter....nothing more.

The cold steel tanto isnt hard to find, shoot me a pm i'll give you several options to find one below retail..

and one more time i wouldnt have taken the time to learn gjj to add to my toolbox if i didnt respect it however it isnt the most important tool its just one of them....

and hey were gearing up for biketoberfest, hop in the viper come on down, i dont travel to commiefornia....

[wolfman]

Response to Boarspear

Obviously I don't pack everywhere I go. I guess if I frequented places of ill repute I might reconsider. And I don't go arround threatening to shoot martial artists, you obviously lack comprehension or you're just stirin the shit. I've never claimed to be Billy Bad Ass, if I fight it is out of necessity and never for fun, I'm either too proud or too stupid to run from a fight. Unlike you I've lost more fights then I care to admitte but I've won far more then I've lost. Myself I prefure going toe to toe providing my opponant isn't faster then I am in which I'm not ashamed to grapple. I am no martial artist but I can box, wrestle and brawl and I'm not beyond using club to get the job done. I have nothing but the highest respect for the martial arts but I distain those who abuse the arts by using it to bully their way through life, I truely wounder if you are one of those? Little men talk big and those who have low self esteem put themselves high on a pedalstool above everyone else. I really don't know why it's so hard for you to understand that if a man is pointing a gun between your eyes and pulls the trigger that you're going to have a chance to disarm him. I do uderstand that if Bruce lee is standing close in front of me that I would'nt want to try to pull a gun on him maybe 10 feet away or better make that 20 feet it's Bruce I'm talking about. This restricts or prevents the movement much like a take down artist would do against a striker and is more then often efective but as you have contested much to my dissagreement that a take down ground technition is not likely to be successful against a striker-street fighter. Too bad you're a F****n Prick, or I might have gotten to like you. At one time I thought some of what you said was right on but what do I know I'm just an "idiot"...

[BoarSpear]

. I really don't know why it's so hard for you to understand that if a man is pointing a gun between your eyes and pulls the trigger that you're going to have a chance to disarm him. I do uderstand that if Bruce lee is standing close in front of me that I would'nt want to try to pull a gun on him maybe 10 feet away or better make that 20 feet it's Bruce I'm talking about. This restricts or prevents the movement much like a take down artist would do against a striker and is more then often efective but as you have contested much to my dissagreement that a take down ground technition is not likely to be successful against a striker-street fighter. Too bad you're a F****n Prick, or I might have gotten to like you. At one time I thought some of what you said was right on but what do I know I'm just an "idiot"...

the fact that you think you can draw a gun on someone safely from 10 feet away and bruce lee gets only 20 feet says you are out of your league.....look up Tuellers drill....hmmm you need 21 feet for the average joe if you are 10 feet from a guy with a knife youre dead....same at 20 feet, especially if it had been bruce with a knife (he WAS fast)...that was my point pal, i could tell from your attitude you THOUGHT you knew something....As for whether or not you like me? i dont really care, but if you wake up and realize you might wanna learn about the weapons you claim to be so proficiant in lemme know, i will be happy to suggest some study aids

Oh yeah, interesting side note.... F.B.I. statistics show 80% of ALL shootings occur INSIDE 20 feet

here is a little thing i teach my students, if your close enough to TALK youre close enough to be vulnerable to the blade...you wont be able to run, or draw a pistol before someone intent on stabbing you does...get a rubber knife, safety goggles and an air soft pistol load it and try it....

ever heard this little quote? "dont judge the whole world by your own shitty standards" ~James Keating~

it sums up this whole thread, just because youre happy with your own level of training and knowledge doesnt stop others from learning different weapons and tactics that you havent because youre so sure you already know everything you need....

[BoarSpear]

Obviously I don't pack everywhere I go. I guess if I frequented places of ill repute I might reconsider.

places of ill repute do you have a postal employee who delivers your mail? do you go to work? people have been shot there, hell people get shot at school...it happens everywhere....gas stations, Mcdonalds, the mall... all those places have had shootings. Yet none are known as places of ill repute....wanna know why no one shoots up places of ill repute? Because those of us inside are armed and we will shoot back.......
(2nd amendment at work )

[Tant01]

Oh yeah, interesting side note.... F.B.I. statistics show 80% of ALL shootings occur INSIDE 20 feet

...
ever heard this little quote? "dont judge the whole world by your own shitty standards" ~James Keating~

it sums up this whole thread, just because youre happy with your own level of training and knowledge doesnt stop others from learning different weapons and tactics that you havent because youre so sure you already know everything you need....

Actually the statistic you gave here is only slightly misleading... About half of ALL fatal shootings occur inside 5 feet.


Keating is egomaniac with delusions of invincibility. I'm surprised he's still alive...

[OmaPlata]

[ then I care to admitte but I've won far more then I've lost. Myself I prefure going toe to toe providing my opponant isn't faster then I am in which I'm not ashamed ]

Please go retake the 1st grade, your spelling is sooooo bad it hurts to read it.

[BoarSpear]

Actually the statistic you gave here is only slightly misleading... About half of ALL fatal shootings occur inside 5 feet.


Keating is egomaniac with delusions of invincibility. I'm surprised he's still alive...

Actually the way the statistics work are 10% of all shootings are fatal and about half of those fatal shootings occur inside 5 feet...the rest make up the 80% inside 20 feet statistic ....at least thats the break down the International law Enforcement Firearms Instructors Assoc gives its instructors to teach the police...

as for James being an egomaniac...how many of the current lot of knife instructors owe James for thier skills? ONE HELL OF ALOT OF THEM....LONG before other people were even Training to use the knife, james was teaching the blade to his people....Ever been to a riddle? james is good, damn good...he doesnt think he is invincable, he wears a vest and carries a gun...no delusions of the knife being the Be all end all of weapons there...

is James full of attitude and balls to the wall? Hell yes, many people back down due to the pure intensity of the man...."The highest art is to fight without fighting"

you want to talk about an ego maniac with delusions of invincibility?, go to a Lynn Thomson knife seminar! He advocates long range knife fighting!

[wolfman]

2nd amendment

places of ill repute :confused:do you have a postal employee who delivers your mail? do you go to work? people have been shot there, hell people get shot at school...it happens everywhere....gas stations, Mcdonalds, the mall... all those places have had shootings. Yet none are known as places of ill repute....wanna know why no one shoots up places of ill repute? Because those of us inside are armed and we will shoot back.......
(2nd amendment at work )

Glad you brought it up, in most of these cases weapons are already drawn! A person is already at a severe disadvantage, I never said it was impossible to overcome these odds but the defender would have to demonstrate incredible skills. Yet we are talking about some one using a gun to intemidate. All I am saying if you pull a gun use it don't talk about it. After all if you want to show off your gun there are better ways of doing so.

If someone is looking for a fight they don't go to a church looking for it do they? No! They will go to a reputable place where they can find some one to fight. Tell the trueth that's why you frequent such places, so you can show off your skills, to prove how tough you are.
It's BS to say that "no one shoots up places of ill repute? Because those of us inside are armed and we will shoot back.." hell they go there looking for a fight. If you truely want to have a few drinks with the budds without a scene you go somewhere that it's less likely to happen.
It does'nt make you any more of a man just because you beat some one up. A true man does'nt feel the need to prove that he is a man, he will neither run to trouble or from trouble. Billy Bad Ass on the other hand...
It is sad that this generation has to resort to violence to resolve their issues, it is good to be prepared to defend yourselfe and family thats what the Arts teach. Are you one of the ones I should defend myself and family from?...

[wolfman]

OmaPlata (spelling)



Get over it ass hole!!

[BoarSpear]

Glad you brought it up, in most of these cases weapons are already drawn! A person is already at a severe disadvantage, I never said it was impossible to overcome these odds but the defender would have to demonstrate incredible skills. Yet we are talking about some one using a gun to intemidate. All I am saying if you pull a gun use it don't talk about it. After all if you want to show off your gun there are better ways of doing so.

If someone is looking for a fight they don't go to a church looking for it do they? No! They will go to a reputable place where they can find some one to fight. Tell the trueth that's why you frequent such places, so you can show off your skills, to prove how tough you are.
It's BS to say that "no one shoots up places of ill repute? Because those of us inside are armed and we will shoot back.." hell they go there looking for a fight. If you truely want to have a few drinks with the budds without a scene you go somewhere that it's less likely to happen.
It does'nt make you any more of a man just because you beat some one up. A true man does'nt feel the need to prove that he is a man, he will neither run to trouble or from trouble. Billy Bad Ass on the other hand...
It is sad that this generation has to resort to violence to resolve their issues, it is good to be prepared to defend yourselfe and family thats what the Arts teach. Are you one of the ones I should defend myself and family from?...

flounder some more billy, contrary to hollywood, all bikers aint bad people...if we were since cops pull us over at every chance we would all be in jail because we all have a ton of drugs in the saddle bag under the 3 machine guns and 2 kidnapped girls

second, youre wrong as hell about people shooting up places we hang...You wanna fight? fine take it out back, we buy ya both a beer when youre finished...ANYONE pulls a weapon and WE ALL BUST HIS ASS....you keep showing your youth and sheltered upbringing at every post sonny.

Btw I am in those places because i work in them when special events come up. i also require my advanced students to bounce to gain experience, since experience is the goal, biker bars offer better training than the skating rinks you seem to frequent since you avoid places of "ill repute".

yes some of those weapons were already drawn, can you outrun a bullet with your run philosophy? didnt think so, so you better learn about that IWB carry i talked about and get some training and carry that weapon huh? ...you cant prevent everything, but going "well im probably dead anyway" is the statement of the dead man. also if you train in a weapon and its limitations you might be aware enough to avoid getting shot or stabbed which is the whole point...

and btw youre wrong about people pulling weapons at close range. If someone is weilding a weapon at a distance and youre paying attention (IE; you arent so confident in your hands and feet that you dont pay attention) you can avoid the conflict or at least be prepared. and youre also wrong about people not pulling weapons at close range. I have had several idiots reach under seats, and into glove boxes and trunks for weapons and several who tried to get weapons strapped to thier ankle...

Ever had a gun stuck in your face? I have, several times....Im still here, so you keep on thinking its impossible, i'll keep training for the possibilities so that i can do something other than pray when the shit hits the fan...

Btw this generation?? Im pretty damn sure i have kids older than YOU. its YOUR generation that thinks ring arts will save your life in the street, and looks for trouble, not mine...you dont see too many grey haired men wearing ""no fear" shirts....or "im running out of places to hide the body shirts." Thats your tough guy generation not mine, (i admit i had shirts that were aggressive when i was young... mine were "napalm sticks to babies" "what price now opec?" and "Be nice to us or well burn your village down") ...most of the people i hang with are retired combat vets from various conflicts around the world who already proved thier manhood (if you think thats what fighting does ) before you were born ....and since you wanna be a little prick and ask if i am one of the people you need to defend yourself and your family from, dont bother, you aint willing to work hard enough, trust me punk...so you just keep assuming Im a "bad guy" and ill be content with my knowledge that you dont know jack shit.

just for the record wolfy, this "bad guy " has 20 years of instruction to military and law enforcement under his belt, i still teach active duty military, or those bound for the military, FREE OF CHARGE, however i no longer teach cops at any price...(tired of seeing them act like assholes, i dont trust em, i will be damned if i will train those i dont trust).

one last point, if you meet someone with superior training, relexes, weapons and mindset you will probably be beaten...but thats why you train, because the worlds full of amatuers, and they usually make mistakes, if Jeff Cooper or M Ayoob pull a weapon on you, yeah, youre dead...

[BoarSpear]

[ then I care to admitte but I've won far more then I've lost. Myself I prefure going toe to toe providing my opponant isn't faster then I am in which I'm not ashamed ]

Please go retake the 1st grade, your spelling is sooooo bad it hurts to read it.

Now Oma, is that any way to talk to such a highly educated fella? Besides he's on your side HEHEHE

so hey you gonna come on down for biketoberfest or what? the cabbage patch is signing up girls fer cole slaw wrasslin as we speak I might can get ya a job judgin! i'll at least get ya a good spot ta watch from....lol