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  • #16
    Kid Lock,

    I was none of those guys, and how do you know I have never been stabbed or had my eyes poked?

    Do you think I train and fight the way I do for sport or showmanship? No way! I train and fight the way I do because it's the only way. There is no other way. Everything else is sport.

    But seriously, my hood is the Rampart District in LA. Did you see Movie Training Day? That's where I live.

    What I really like about the movie is how they show Etahn Hawke attempt BJJ against multiple opponents and express that it is not good for multiple opponents because that's the way they do it out here.

    Maybe BJJ is good for the high school kids in the rich hood, but you do BJJ here and they are going to laugh. I hate to say it, but it is true.

    As for TKD, I don't care too much about it. It's just as pathetic as BJJ for true self defense. They are both sports. One of them uses kicks, the other uses grappling, but both of them are asking to get murdered when facing a killer from my neighbourhood, and believe me, there are way to many of those around here who should be locked up.

    As far as what I have studied. It has no name. One day my uncle pulled me aside and said, "I am going to teach you how to kill"
    and since then most Martial Arts have become a joke to me.

    For BJJ, we fool around with it and have seen how it can be effective. But we are also smart enough to realize that it is good only for one on one fight, when there is a referee and there is no shank.
    Last edited by knifer; 08-02-2002, 10:23 AM.

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    • #17
      LOL!

      Rorny, you are the funniest student I have had in years!

      Actually that isn't me. That's from 1920 in Brazil when Mitsuo Maeda pulled Carlos Gracie to the side and offered to tech him Jujutsu.

      As for your Uncle Royce, I will teach you a trick to beat him that we people love to do every day in the street....

      First you grab a rock, a stick, any kind of object that can be used as a weapon.

      Now, when he isn't looking, you hit him in the back of the head with the weapon and he will go down. It's is very simple and this kind of technique only takes a minute to learn but can be used effectively against people who know BJJ or any other martial art.

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      • #18
        Rorny,

        I am sorry, but if Sakuraba's kicks, and Ken Shamrock's Punch has the capibility to destroy Royce's Spirit, leg and Pride, then you should know that a rock smash to the back of his head will undoubtedly send him to the hospital.

        You are my student so you should show me more respect.

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        • #19
          This thread went way down hill. But Il answere it anyway. BJJ probably wont suit your circumstances. Try a JKD school or something that does weapon training.

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          • #20
            Damn right BJJ won't suit my circumstances!

            My friend learned some of that shit and when he used it on the street it was very effective until he got shanked in the gut and now he's dead.

            So to hell with BJJ and their worthless propaganda as the "Ultimate Fighting Style" because all it takes is a kitchen utensil to render that art useless

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            • #21
              Knifer on show!

              I love this thread. It shows Knifer up for exactly what he is! His "Art" revolves around picking up a weapon, sneaking up behind someone, and then letting them have it! What a great way to fight! What a courageous man we have hear to "teach" us!

              But, Knifer, you arse-hole, what do you do when it is the other guy who does the attacking, and you are defending yourself? Do you tell him which district of LA you come from and hope he will be impressed?

              Oh, I forgot, you go around carrying an arsenal (an appropriate word for you) of weapons like an"ice pick"......

              Haw haw haw!

              WHAT A WANKER!

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              • #22
                Hi again Bir Thai,

                Yep. That's the way I fight. I sneak up on people and crack em in the head with a pipe when they don't expect it.

                I understand that this is not a fiar way to fight, but hey, I never claimed to be a Knight or Sir Knifer did I?

                Oh I remember! The last knight of England was a homo named Elton!

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                • #23
                  So, tell me how to sneak up behind someone who is attacking you. Does it take Ninja training?

                  Haw haw haw!

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                  • #24
                    JOHNNY (No belts No BS)

                    what is it that we seek here...is it knowledge...perhaps primary should be understanding and respect for one another as human beings...let us share our thoughts and ideas and learn from one another...Johnny (No Belts/No BS)

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                    • #25
                      If street attacks and stabbings are common where you live you should seriously consider finding another place to live. There are plenty of cheap neighborhoods around LA than DON'T have these problems. No martial art can really deal with multiple attackers and armed assailants to a point where you'd want to gamble your life on it.
                      For armed attackers and guys wielding a knife, find a good running coach.

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                      • #26
                        Don't worry about him Mr. Miyagi. I suspect the district of LA he actually lives in is "Cloud Cuckoo Land".

                        He is merely day dreaming himself in scenes from crap videos that he watched when he should have been at school.

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                        • #27
                          Hey Miyagi,

                          Don't tell me where to live in LA. Where I live and how the hell I choose to live should be of no concern to you. If I wanted to, I could afford to live in f'n beverly hills, but why the hell should I do that when I comfortable where I am?

                          Maybe there's a lot of violence to dish out and to deal with, but isn't that what we are training for? Or does Miyagi move to the San Fernando valley so he can compete in Open Tournaments?

                          Miyagi, you one of those guys in LA who we call weekend warrior aren't you? You do all sorts of training but the only use you have for it is in Glorious tournaments probably.

                          As for Bir Thai....

                          LOL!

                          "merely day dreaming himself in scenes from crap videos that he watched " You know Bir Thai, maybe you come spend some time here, and you will be glad that you a cop in UK and not in LA.

                          You say you're a cop?

                          You're a security guard not a cop. All you UK cops are pansies compared to what LAPD gots to deal with.

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                          • #28
                            "Don't tell me where to live in LA. Where I live and how the hell I choose to live should be of no concern to you. If I wanted to, I could afford to live in f'n beverly hills, but why the hell should I do that when I comfortable where I am?"

                            But it is YOU who keeps telling everyone what a tough neighbourhood you live in. You're the one who has made it some kind of issue........ I particularly like the "I could afford to live in Beverly Hills" bit.....

                            WHAT A WANKER! Haw haw haw!

                            Anyway, can you log on as someone else now please? This "Knifer" character is way to transparent.

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                            • #29
                              Bir Thai,

                              why don't you shut the ****in british mouth of yours? I brought up my home to illustrate a specific example of how martial arts theory and practice can vary from place to place, and you come out here and bitch like the bacon you are.

                              And what's so special about saying this???
                              "I could afford to live in Beverly Hills"
                              Seriously it's no big deal. I've robbed a lot of ****in people. I could live whereever the **** I want. In fact, I can come down to Manchester with some LAPD and we beat you down with our nightsticks Rodney King style and teach you some lessons in LAPD etiquette.

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                              • #30
                                Are you sure you can leave the house with just a nightstick?

                                I thought you needed your knife to make you feel safe.

                                WANKER!

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