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  • #76
    Originally posted by BoarSpear
    When fanatics try to rule the world...jail is not the solution. neither is compassion...execute them. oh wait the religous people might object...see my point?
    I think executing terrorists is a very compassionate thing to do--for the rest of the world. Not all religious people are sheep. There is a sect of Orthodox Jews in the IDF, for example. And the Apache warriors have a rich and beautiful spiritual tradition...

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    • #77
      Originally posted by treelizard
      I think executing terrorists is a very compassionate thing to do--for the rest of the world. Not all religious people are sheep. There is a sect of Orthodox Jews in the IDF, for example. And the Apache warriors have a rich and beautiful spiritual tradition...
      What about the christian sect "the children of god" aka "the family" where free love and orgies are is it's main attraction.They are also know for their crimes in child molestation.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Oraenor
        What they do not realise is that they are just another offspring of a jewish cult that went wrong.?
        There were more ?

        Originally posted by Oraenor
        I wonder if they are against science as well?
        You don't know if you don't ask.

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        • #79
          what up saki?

          Anyway before you assume this an "i hate christains rant". whatever you think gives you the strength to go on is good in my opinion. You can believe that elvis is your own personal saviour and pray to him 6 hours a day if you want...but dont expect me to buy all his albums. when the shit hits the fan i would prefer six armed athiest to the rescue, than the prayers of a million practioners of any religion for their god to save me. If caught in a life or death situation with seconds to decide the outcome, i want the guy who spends those seconds assessing and preparing to fight, not the guy who spends them in prayer to back me up. I found in my experience many people who believe in god or his protection fail to do things to insure their own survival. People get a little arrogant in assuming that of all the people in the world "he has my back."

          Ask any combat medic how many guys he has seen die because they got "permission" from a priest in last rites? People who wouldnt and SHOULDNT have died from the wounds they recieved but their will to live was superseded by their will to "go home" to god.

          As long as your beliefs TRULY make you stronger...go for it.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Oraenor
            What about the christian sect "the children of god" aka "the family" where free love and orgies are is it's main attraction.They are also know for their crimes in child molestation.
            Correlation at best, but if they do exist they are re-writing over sacred texts .

            There are extremists in about every group, including sports fans and those pesky underwater basket weavers.

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            • #81
              your all satanic voodoo practising deamon bondage fiends.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by gong fu
                your all satanic voodoo practising deamon bondage fiends.
                Theres no i in god,theres no team in god but there is a dog in god.Maybe these fundamentalist cults are like dog shit, distinct, foul and fresh from god's arse.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by BoarSpear
                  what up saki?

                  If caught in a life or death situation with seconds to decide the outcome, i want the guy who spends those seconds assessing and preparing to fight, not the guy who spends them in prayer to back me up. I found in my experience many people who believe in god or his protection fail to do things to insure their own survival. People get a little arrogant in assuming that of all the people in the world "he has my back."
                  Don't know if you were here when Darrianation was posting, but he's a guy who believes in God and seemed well prepaired for self-protection. I think its more of a function of us living in a country with a strong economy and less strife than other countries.

                  Originally posted by BoarSpear
                  Ask any combat medic how many guys he has seen die because they got "permission" from a priest in last rites? People who wouldnt and SHOULDNT have died from the wounds they recieved but their will to live was superseded by their will to "go home" to god. As long as your beliefs TRULY make you stronger...go for it.
                  How do you build your will to live?

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by gong fu
                    your all satanic voodoo practising deamon bondage fiends.

                    hey! nailing some dude to a cross aint bondage..there are no nails or spears in bondage you freak ...although the candles can be handy
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                    • #85
                      Okay first of all I'm not a Christian at all (though I do thing Jesus is really cool). I get your analogy, obviously people need to take actions, assess and prepare to fight, etc. when in situations where there are only seconds to decide the outcome. But not EVERY situation is one where there are only seconds to decide the outcome. So what do you do in those in-between moments?

                      Also while I see what you're saying about people getting arrogant thinking that God will back them up, there are a lot of atheists who think "It can't happen to me!" and are arrogant for other reasons. There are also a lot of things people could be distracting themselves with OTHER than prayer during the few critical seconds they need to be taking action. Just try meditating and you can come up with numerous other examples of potential distractions in war zones. So I would say that I would prefer six armed and focused people with the will to live, whether that is because of their love of Elvis, their God or their country, who ARE doing things to insure their own survival. I believe what you said about people dying because they got "permission" but I don't think you need to be religious to lose your will to live. I guess it can go either way, huh? What has kept me going in my darkest moments is this idea that maybe I'm on earth for a reason and can help other people if I just shed enough ego to let God do it through me. Also since I DO believe in God I absolutely think that if I get in a situation where I even think I MAY need to use self-defense, I wouldn't be in that situation unless I left an opening. And because I want to live to accomplish whatever it is I'm supposed to do, I'm gonna do everything I can not to leave any openings. I'm not leaving doors unlocked or any of that. "Faith without works is dead."

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Oraenor
                        Theres no i in god,theres no team in god but there is a dog in god.Maybe these fundamentalist cults are like dog shit, distinct, foul and fresh from god's arse.
                        Well, there's a whole variety of cults that span from slight alterations of interpretations in the Bible (those young fellas who ride up in bikes, mostly a friendly bunch) to the bizzare.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Tom Yum
                          Don't know if you were here when Darrianation was posting, but he's a guy who believes in God and seemed well prepaired for self-protection. I think its more of a function of us living in a country with a strong economy and less strife than other countries.



                          How do you build your will to live?
                          simple man...kids to see...mezcal to drink...friends to hang with ...herb to help the authorities burn ( Im doing my part i burn it whenever i find it ) a wife to go home to .... getting BJ's.... i can think of lots of reasons to keep on livin...pissing off the shitbag trying to kill me, for instance, by killing him first, maybe while he is still prayin fer help

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by BoarSpear
                            hey! nailing some dude to a cross aint bondage..there are no nails or spears in bondage you freak ...although the candles can be handy
                            Have you ever thought that the new testament is just a metaphorical story about a gay man coming out of the closet? single male,12 'brotherly' disciples, romans(yes those gay muscular men), being nailed and speared by romans and a tiara on his head....rather such a sacreligious imagery but then again Christianity is a Jewish cult!

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by treelizard
                              Okay first of all I'm not a Christian at all (though I do thing Jesus is really cool). I get your analogy, obviously people need to take actions, assess and prepare to fight, etc. when in situations where there are only seconds to decide the outcome. But not EVERY situation is one where there are only seconds to decide the outcome. So what do you do in those in-between moments?

                              Also while I see what you're saying about people getting arrogant thinking that God will back them up, there are a lot of atheists who think "It can't happen to me!" and are arrogant for other reasons. There are also a lot of things people could be distracting themselves with OTHER than prayer during the few critical seconds they need to be taking action. Just try meditating and you can come up with numerous other examples of potential distractions in war zones. So I would say that I would prefer six armed and focused people with the will to live, whether that is because of their love of Elvis, their God or their country, who ARE doing things to insure their own survival. I believe what you said about people dying because they got "permission" but I don't think you need to be religious to lose your will to live. I guess it can go either way, huh? What has kept me going in my darkest moments is this idea that maybe I'm on earth for a reason and can help other people if I just shed enough ego to let God do it through me. Also since I DO believe in God I absolutely think that if I get in a situation where I even think I MAY need to use self-defense, I wouldn't be in that situation unless I left an opening. And because I want to live to accomplish whatever it is I'm supposed to do, I'm gonna do everything I can not to leave any openings. I'm not leaving doors unlocked or any of that. "Faith without works is dead."
                              isnt god working through you the ultimate ego trip? why does god need you? or your money? neither one was around when he created the whole world...but NOW he needs help? I dont recall the church being real impressed with gods work through joan of arc...unless being burned at the stake is your idea of gods reward.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by BoarSpear
                                simple man...kids to see...mezcal to drink...friends to hang with ...herb to help the authorities burn ( Im doing my part i burn it whenever i find it ) a wife to go home to .... getting BJ's.... i can think of lots of reasons to keep on livin...pissing off the shitbag trying to kill me, for instance, by killing him first, maybe while he is still prayin fer help

                                you ca find will to live in everything, life itself is will to live, just bieng given precious life gives me the will to live,


                                friends, wife, training, learning, nature, challenge, fun, happy times, rough times, and ofcourse blazing the herb,

                                boar do you grow your own?


                                peace

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