STEROIDS!?! How dangerous ARE they??

[haumana2000]

stupid question?

I was in Puerto Vallarta a couple of weeks ago for my job, and heard of "Topical cream" based steroids. Sounds kind of stupid to me but I could be wrong, has anyone else heard of this? or are they marketing snake oil? Myself I prefer to be lean, and love the way I feel when doing body resistance type excercises like hundreds of pushups sit ups, pll ups, and dips. but it did catch my eye.

[JCRD]

I was in Puerto Vallarta a couple of weeks ago for my job, and heard of "Topical cream" based steroids. Sounds kind of stupid to me but I could be wrong, has anyone else heard of this? or are they marketing snake oil? Myself I prefer to be lean, and love the way I feel when doing body resistance type excercises like hundreds of pushups sit ups, pll ups, and dips. but it did catch my eye.

there are steroids that are absorbed transdermally (through the skin)
usually these are called Pro Hormones or Pro Steroids and many believe they are safer, although in my opinion the side effects from Pro Hormones are exactly the same as steroids. They are also more expensive to buy and although they were legal in the states for a while they are now banned. So you might as well buy the real thing unless u have a fear of needles.

Having said that this guy may have still been selling fakes, when its on the black market theres only 1 way to find out
get it lab tested, ive never seen a cream, u sure it wasnt a gel

even if u take it and it makes u big, it still might not be what it claims to be

[LoneHusky]

I'm way to proud to even consider steroids. It's like cheating on a test you get results but you don't feel good about it.

[zhorner]

if you take or have ever taken steriods, deca dura bolin ect... then you are a pussy for life.

it is cheating.

you are too lazy to do it the hard way.

you will probably do it wrong and go bald and develope tits.

if you take steriods, you might as well take insulin and hgh too you pansy.

afterwards never look your dad in the eye again because you will be a turd.

[gregimotis]

This thread is disgusting.

[Garland]

This thread is disgusting.

Yes, but you have no right to try and assert you ethical agendas upon others.
If people choose to stuff their bodies with that shit...they are the ones taking on the risk, and they're also the ones having to look at long term side-effects.

If they compete...good for them, they're the ones willing to sacrifice their genetalia and risk the growth of fun bags, for what could probably be considered a minimal edge in the fight game. If they fight somebody in the same weight class...(many steroids mostly just help people to gain mass, and, although they look like freaks, have perhaps a minute amount of more strength than a natural athlete who trains vigorously.) Sure, they might have a little more strength, but what about muscular ENDURANCE? How about CARDIO??? On top of all that, and perhaps most importantly, what about SKILL AND TECHNIQUE???

[gregimotis]

Yes, but you have no right to try and assert you ethical agendas upon others.

I certainly do have the right to state my opinion, and I don't have to be nice about it. I can say, for example:

It isn't the steriod use that bothers me, it's the casulness of the cheating and slacking. The total lack of sportsmanship and not even an ounce of shame.

Steriods in body building is normal, cutting each other off in traffic is normal, obscene bumper stickers are normal, suing each other over meaningless crap is normal, kids beating up their teachers in school is normal... it's all related.

It's an epidemic of ammoral self-absorbtion. It's disgusting.

[JCRD]

if you take or have ever taken steriods, deca dura bolin ect... then you are a pussy for life.

it is cheating.

you are too lazy to do it the hard way.

zhorner, your are officially an idiot, when your on the roids you have to work harder in the gym, eat harder, and sleep harder than what you do when your natural
anyone who is on the roids and does not work hard, isnt gonna get big, fullstop

women go and get fat sucked out of their ass, and silicone implanted in their tits
but when a guy takes roids hes a criminal and a cheater, and taking the easy way out

[LoneHusky]

I don't think they should be criminals, there are way more important issues to tackle, but I think taking them is a sign of low integrity and work ethic. People on steroids work harder=bullshit. They took the easy way out and should at least have the integrity to admit that.

[zhorner]

zhorner, your are officially an idiot, when your on the roids you have to work harder in the gym, eat harder, and sleep harder than what you do when your natural
anyone who is on the roids and does not work hard, isnt gonna get big, fullstop

women go and get fat sucked out of their ass, and silicone implanted in their tits
but when a guy takes roids hes a criminal and a cheater, and taking the easy way out

wow, i guess that is the "roid rage" talking...hahahahahahahahahaha

you have to work harder when on roids...is that why these juice monkeys lift weights for 45 minutes a day 4 times a week, (which is done by many, many average weightlifters)

what separates the average weightlifter from the over vascular trapezius monsters if they are doing the same workouts...maybe it is the anadrol, deca, durabolin, hybolin, kabolin, oxandrin, and winstrol that these turds are putting in their body...hahahahahahahahaha.

work harder...lets do 3x8 of bench press and then hop on hammer incline for 2-3x8...hahahahahahaha

you have no pride, it is cheating.

the only bodybuilder i have ever seen work hard is ronnie coleman. lee preist floats through his workouts...dorian yates does one set of everything,(while at a super high intensity though), but still, 1 set...i wonder why he only has to do one set of each exercise as opposed to the 4 sets a normal person has to do...oh yeah, THE DECA SHOTS THAT THEY HAPPEN TO LEAVE OUT OF THE VIDEO!!!!!!

people can take their pathetic steroids, they will suck for life, ESPECIALLY for MA training, but whatever.

to conclude, you do not have to work harder when taking steroids. is it easier to add 50 pounds to any lift while taking them, or by just natural training?

i understand that bodybuilding is one of the hardest sports,(if you want to call it a sport because it requires no athleticism), the diets and lifestyles are the most strict for sure...but this is a MA forum. so NO you do not have to work harder to make gains while taking steroids or everyone would be natural.

oh yeah...you are a complete mullet for posting such a comment...you should seriously consider killing yourself...how absurd.

[JCRD]

wow, i guess that is the "roid rage" talking...hahahahahahahahahaha

actually no its not, ive never taken steroids but i have done alot of research and it is certainly something i am considering

what separates the average weightlifter from the over vascular trapezius monsters if they are doing the same workouts...maybe it is the anadrol, deca, durabolin, hybolin, kabolin, oxandrin, and winstrol that these turds are putting in their body...hahahahahahahahaha.

yes it all the steroids, couldnt be their DIET by any chance now could it you idiot

work harder...lets do 3x8 of bench press and then hop on hammer incline for 2-3x8...hahahahahahaha

you have no pride, it is cheating.

the only bodybuilder i have ever seen work hard is ronnie coleman. lee preist floats through his workouts...dorian yates does one set of everything,(while at a super high intensity though), but still, 1 set...i wonder why he only has to do one set of each exercise as opposed to the 4 sets a normal person has to do...oh yeah, THE DECA SHOTS THAT THEY HAPPEN TO LEAVE OUT OF THE VIDEO!!!!!!

this is where your ignorance really shines through, no matter how much steroids you take, IF YOU DONT TRAIN HARD UNTIL FAILURE, YOU WILL NOT GROW

to conclude, you do not have to work harder when taking steroids. is it easier to add 50 pounds to any lift while taking them, or by just natural training?

yes, steroids make you stronger and able to lift heavier, but that doesnt mean you dont have to work harder

when you see a guy whos on the roids, pumping 650kg+ on a 45 degree leg press, do you see them sitting there casually completing their workout without hardly breaking a sweat, or do you see them grunting, straining, red faced, dripping with sweat, training partner by their side screaming one more rep

if you take steriods, you might as well take insulin and hgh too you pansy

this proves you know nothing about the topic, if you **** around with insulin you risk becoming a permanent diabetic, or you could even wind up in a coma, and alot of people dont have $5000 to go on a cycle of HGH, as opposed to $200-$300 to go on a cycle of steroids

and ill conclude by saying
if you say to me
"taking steroids when competing against people who arent on steroids is cheating"
i couldnt agree with you more
but when you go and say people who are on steroids dont work as hard, it just shows me that you dont know what your talking about

sure there are the idiots who go and take roids and will think they dont have to work as hard, those are the guys who wont grow, or they will fill up with water and look big, but they wont keep 1 pound of quality muscle once they get off their cycle

[zhorner]

oh my god...you are a turd.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO WORK HARDER...YOU ARE PUTTING TESTOSTERONE IN YOUR BODY...IT BUILDS MUSCLE...HOLY SHIT!

i understand that diet is a huge part in weight training. but once again...you take two people who are on the same diet and doing the same high intensity workout...the juicer will get way bigger, way stronger, way more muscular, and so on...

the end you monkey. you have no argument.

here is the thing potato...juicers do tend to bump up the intensity and work harder. shit, incredibly fast results does wonders for the ego and makes you want to train your ass off to become better. so you are right in a sense that steroid-folk do work harder...but they do not have to.

the fact that you are considering taking them lets me know that you have no pride...

this is a MA forum you fidget. not bodybuilding...you said you are considering taking them. well, you suck (but i am sure you all ready know that)...but i have a question or two for you...

why take them?
what does it matter?
is it so girls will like you? because girls do not care.
do you want to be the gigantic idiot in spandex everyone talks about?
their is natural bodybuilding you know.
are you not getting the results you want without steroids?

in closing, you should not reply to this and try to show everyone your extensive knowledge of steroids. accept that you lost this debate and go drink some dishwashing soap to punish yourself...better yet, why not just commit seppuku/hara-kiri

[gregimotis]

this is where your ignorance really shines through, no matter how much steroids you take, IF YOU DONT TRAIN HARD UNTIL FAILURE, YOU WILL NOT GROW

If steriods make it harder, then why take steriods - because you want a disadvantage, or what?



You might just as well say that you're going to weight your gloves because it makes it harder to keep your hands up that way.

[JCRD]

your main point is that people who take steroids dont work HARD to gain what they gain

im trying to say they do work just as HARD if not HARDER

you would be 100% right if you said steroids make you achieve results FASTER

but dont discredit people such as lee priest and dorian yates by saying they dont train hard because they wouldnt be where they were without hard trainig

lets forget that argument and let me clear up a few misconceptions
not all steroids make you big
alot of martial artists, boxers, and other athletes use drugs such as oxandrolone, winstrol, and trenbolone acetate to make massive strength gains without the unwanted bulk

also just for the record i dont need to pick up girls anymore because i am married

[LatinoHeat]

Here are some Links with Steriod Info

I would read up as much info & Consult a Doctor prior to using Steriods.
Also if you are on certain medications you could harm yourself.
Ive added some sites so you can look into it.
Also buy The Steriods Bible avaliable via Amazon.com Amazon.ca & Amazon.co.uk
There are good & bad points regarding steriods.
Good Luck.
Phillip.


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