Would Bruce Lee win UFC fights had he been still alive and willing to compete?

[Ground Pounder]

who cares

Bruce lee was a prophet in MMA/crosstraining.
He refused to accept the syndrome of training into a single style MA which was the norm back than. Most of members of this forum like me are too young to experience MA clubs that will ban members for crosstraining (meaning going to another MA clubs some new tricks), Bruce Lee broke the taboo and started a trend.
He was a profesionnal actor and I think he will never took part in any modern MMA event as we know them: not enough money!

Well said. Bruce Lee was a good fighter but he was aslo a student just like any of us were. As far as Bruce Lee being pinned anyone can do that to a small chinese man of 125 pounds.
I will say this though. Before Bruce Lee died he was training at my studio under Gene Labell learning grappling skills really well. I seriously doubt pinning him would do much good at that point in time.

[wardancer]

I remember reading an interview with Wally Jay. Jay said that he once pinned Bruce and Bruce couldn't do anything to get out. He also said that he admired Wally's skill but he felt grappling took too long.

Bruce lee was a prophet in MMA/crosstraining.
He refused to accept the syndrome of training into a single style MA which was the norm back than. Most of members of this forum like me are too young to experience MA clubs that will ban members for crosstraining (meaning going to another MA clubs some new tricks), Bruce Lee broke the taboo and started a trend.
He was a profesionnal actor and I think he will never took part in any modern MMA event as we know them: not enough money!

[wardancer]

vintage Mas Oyama pic

Mas Oyama is the man!
He train Judo with Kimura back then.
He used to challenge fight like the Gracies

[Ground Pounder]

he would probobly dominate the clinch range, as well as the back mount.

He would do good in someones guard period since he spends hours between legs the nasty sucker. I must say if I was fighint rj myself and I had to use a guard it would be a sambo one so I could keep his nasty crotch away from mine.

[EmptyneSs]

How would Ron Jeremy do in a UFC?

Well, how 'bout it?

he would probobly dominate the clinch range, as well as the back mount.

[academian]

About this good !!!!!!

[Tom Yum]

How about this...

How would Ron Jeremy do in a UFC?

Well, how 'bout it?

[medic06]

I think a more relavent question would be if Bruce were around, would he be cross training more grappling into his training regimine...and I believe he would.
He was an awesome athlete and martial artist...and he didn't leave any loose ends, he'd be doing MMA.

Now Mas Oyama....would probably stick to stand up.
Now those two guys were tough as nails.

How do you guys thing Mas could have done against an MMA fighter? Remember the man killed bulls for shits and giggles.

I remember reading an interview with Wally Jay. Jay said that he once pinned Bruce and Bruce couldn't do anything to get out. He also said that he admired Wally's skill but he felt grappling took too long.

[academian]

vintage Mas Oyama pic

[Garland]

I think a more relavent question would be if Bruce were around, would he be cross training more grappling into his training regimine...and I believe he would.
He was an awesome athlete and martial artist...and he didn't leave any loose ends, he'd be doing MMA.

Now Mas Oyama....would probably stick to stand up.
Now those two guys were tough as nails.

How do you guys thing Mas could have done against an MMA fighter? Remember the man killed bulls for shits and giggles.

[Ground Pounder]

Lee would lose to Keith Hackney or Bas. But Lee was better than an average martial artist.

Your joking right? If your not how old are you kid?

[fenwick99]

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Lee did in fact knock out several persons with one punch each, or with one series of WC chain punches each. He also sidekicked a would-be challenger across his backyard. ASK DAN, DAMMIT!
Lee would lose to Keith Hackney or Bas. But Lee was better than an average martial artist.

[MuayThaiFighter]

I will say this about it being physicaly impossible to take a man out with one punch...

I wasn't talking about against just one man,I meant it's physically impossible to take out several men with only one punch or kick.

In most cases a person won't be able to knock out even one person with just one hit,it's not like he would just stand there and let you hit him,however I know it's not impossible,it does happen just not often.

It's done all the time in fights. You see upsets all the time where the fighter loosing stands up and scores a haymaker hitting the stronger fighter dead in the chin and knocking him out.

True,but that's not just one punch, after all if he was losing the fight in first place and was on ground he obviously had already thrown at least one punch which didn't do him any good.That perhaps was his first punch since standing up again, where he knocks guy out cold, but not his first punch through out the whole fight.

I doubt he was losing a fight because he had gotten hit just once.


Now if you are talking about Bruce Lee fighting several men at one time he could easily take out 5 men "in the old days".

In movies you can do anything.Either way it wouldn't have been with just one punch or kick.

Now days everyone on the streets knows a little something. If he was to go up against 5 people now chances are he would be fighting 3 grapplers that would shoot in on his legs while the other 2 prolly being some martial artists or boxers would pound his ass.


True enough,but that could have happened back then as well.Martial Arts existed way before his time.Only difference is now many people in MA want to switch to MMA.

1V1 there are very few people alive today that stand a chance against him. There are a few Kenpo artists out there that are as fast as Bruce was with his hands but Bruce was exqually as fast with his feet.

I tend to disagree. How fast Bruce Lee really was,no one knows.People believe what they want to or what media has made Bruce Lee out to be.Unless you knew him personally it's impossible to say how fast he was but it definitely wasn't as fast as media says.It's physically impossible for anyone to be that fast even if he were the best as people claim.In my opinion he was a great martial artist no doubt,due to his phylosophy and theories about martial arts but as far as sparring,which he was against,he was no more then an actor.


You guys are arguing about UFC and this and that it's not worth it. But I did agree with mui about his comment on the UFC's. I would like to see someone thats talkin bad about the UFC's and how unrealistic it is with the rules. Yes there are rules but it's basicly no holds fighting without the girly biting, fish hooking and kicking people while they are down. You can throw any kind of punch kick elbow knee standing up and do it all on the ground as long as you are grappling.

Nice to know we agree on this subject.

Any of you ever fought in a ring at all?

Yep,I've fought in a ring before,not UFC one though.I'd like to one day.


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[academian]

multiple style sparing is awesome.

[Ground Pounder]

Gym arranged fights now and then, but that's about it so I am a humble recreational amateur.

The rest of my fight diet consists of regular sparring with guys of different levels and different sizes in round robin format. In an hours training I can get in about 6 good rounds against the fresh fighters, I try to push it now and then but get seriously gassed.

I do allright, but have been humbled just as many times because there's allways someone better.

These are the words of a true martial artist. If you were here I would salute you or shake your hand. I love sparring against multiple styles it's amazing what you can learn. Every fighter/martial artist even if they are all from on style have there own style. I use to do round robbins in whats called gorilla training at the JuJitsu school I first started at and it was amazing the shape you would get in to.