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toes down, no doubt about it, if not you can be crying for good 
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Hoo boy, I just contradicted you in another thread, you are going to hate me for sure now! ... low forearm block? Heh, honestly I think you are probably an exponent of muay thai and just joking around pretending to be TKD to get a reaction.
Anyway, IN CASE YOU'RE NOT JOKING:
I've been training muay thai 5 years, 2 years in thailand, fought in the ring here with only boxing gloves. Let me assure you that low forearm block will not only have little to no effect on a good muay thai fighters leg, it will probably instantly disable your arm if not BREAK it. Like Tom Yum said the leg is stronger than the arm, it will win every time. Danced around and picked him off? Heh, bet that was in a ring too right?
Awwww this is a joke, I'm sure of it now. In the other thread you talked about muay thai being only sport and TKD being strictly for street survival... you gotta be joking.
Damian Mavis
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Great technique there... I once had a spar with a Kung Fu/Sanda fighter, who used to block the leg kicks with forearms, it took a couple of times then I faked a low kick as he moved his arm down to block I instead switched my kick to his head knoking him out for good, not very safe to block leg kicks with your forearms, besides that a forearm can not withstand repeated blows as the shin is a far stronger bone and might easily brake your arm. It just depends at the end how skilled the Thai fighter you are sparring against, if you are a top semi-contact fighter fighting against a newbie, then IMHO it makes all sense... Have you tried to fight a top Thai fighter?Originally posted by Andy Murray
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Not to bust your balls, but I have to bust your balls....Originally posted by Andy Murray
Why do so many people with little to no MuayThai experience come onto a MuayThai message board to offer their advice to MuayThai students and fighter?
I have fought point fighters as well. Yes, you guys dance around a lot and can be quite difficult to catch....
...if you don't know how to cut off the ring. If you guys weren't in a ring, its so easy for you to dance away the whole fight. But what I have consistently found is that once I catch up with the point fighter and successfully land ONE SHOT, the game changes drastically. Instead of dancing around and throwing pot-shotting, sniping attacks, they simply revert to running, or just outright quitting.
If your low forearm blocks and your dancing tactics were as successful as you say, then I'd be willing to be that you were sparring a MuayThai novice. Someone who shins aren't conditioned, someone who hasn't learned to catch someone who runs from them....Comment
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This is a manner of style, stance and movement. I teach KB and we use a forward lean stance when moving forward. When receiving a low line kick try using a quick retract of the lead leg. The forward knee points towards the opponent, toes are pointing down and near the rear knee. Keep the leg relaxed. It's not neccessary to dorsal-flex the ankle if the shin is condition in a relax state.
Understand range in motion and that an incoming kick is intended for rear leg.Comment
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Eh.... the way you described that.... sounds like a strong muay thai kick to the leg would seriously hurt you. Why is an incoming leg kick intended for the rear leg? I usually aim for my opponents lead leg, it's the closest target. The forward knee points toward the opponent? How do you ensure you block with the shin bone if you point it directly towards the opponent? Sounds like the muscle on the outside of the shin would catch the incoming shin bone and you would get your leg disabled. Relax the leg? If my shiled is relaxed when the incoming full power kick hits it.... then my shield crumbles and his kick tears right through my defence... Maybe I misunderstand your description?
Damian Mavis
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There are general rules and exceptions to everything. There are times when the obvious target is the lead leg. For example, if the player is retreating then you kick the leg closes to you before they are no longer in range. If you can avoid a strike you should and if I can't then block. I recommended that a player points his knee towards his opponent because fighters are always moving and after a block you don't want to lose your line of attack while you remain within his.Originally posted by Damian Mavis
In regard to conditioning there are many schools of thought. Mine is that you should toughen the deep tissue of the leg and not just the large muscles that cover the shin.Comment
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Originally posted by RAB
I used to teach Kickboxing too, and I always told my students to try to learn all kind of strikes to the legs. To kick to the lead leg is the obvious thing hence everyone develops a good defence against it and added to that the lead leg gets used to punishments and can take several good kicks before it starts having problems, not such a thing with the rear leg, very few develop a good protection and is more vulnerable to strikes, I like to fake a right jab, make a decalage to the left like we do in Savate and poof a good leg kick with left shin, Rob Kaman used to do it lot and it works very well. Another trick I like to do is throw a couple of right leg kicks and see how my opponent blocks, when it's someone who lifts his leg enough to block, I strike just underneath his block to the rear leg... it always worked wonders for me and I don't meet many who are very familiar with these techniques...
I will insist that the best way to block is toes down, or better like in Savate, we try to avoid the leg kicksComment
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Hey bro, yea I remember, lol. I agree, we all learn differently based on our personal experiences and those of our direct instructors. I have always been taught to block with toes up, but I still always wondered why I never had my toes caught like you have described, so I do see your point. Fortunately I have not experienced it first hand (or foot, lol). Take care, man!Originally posted by BoxiadosComment
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Hey, where did the original post by Andy Murray about blocking with the forearm go to?? I see some of you replied to it, and I wanted to say how absurd it is also, but don't seem to see it anylonger. He must have gotten embarrassed and deleted it, huh?Comment
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Actually, it appears that the person posting as "Andy Murray" was imp'ing him. It wasn't the real Andy Murray. Just a troll trying to start crap. I think the account was deleted.Comment
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The real Andy Murray, i.e. me, has much better understanding of MT, and would never have posted anything so ridiculous.Originally posted by Khun Kao
I have a great respect for the art, so pray continue with the discussion, as I am enjoying it.
Incidentally, I have a friend on his way to train in Phuket for a couple of weeks.
Anyone know these people, or what he should expect?
I'll only hear about it when he get's back.Comment
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Man, I loved this thread.
Now I have a question, what is the best way for an old fighter like myself (48 1/2) to moderately condition his shins? I'm never gonna fight pro or MT but I would like to condition my shins for blocking kicks in self defense situations. What would be the best route to choose. Not looking for hard core shin conditioning. Thanks in advance.Comment
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Kick the heavy bag. A LOT. Vigorously massage your shins between rounds. Repeat.Comment
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Should I use tiger balm afterwards?Originally posted by Khun KaoComment
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