Mugging in NYC

[jubaji]

If you're waiting for someone to introduce something new .

LOL! Just as I've been saying. You do nothing but repeat yourself over and over and over...

[Uke]

And this little piggy said "preposterous"

1) I do not live on the internet. Responding to your unfounded and preposterous arguments and childish name calling is not a priority on my list.
2) Good one. Sit there and make all the inane comments and personal attacks you can and try to rail on me for whatever you percieve as inexperience (I never made a personal attack, I simply stated that your actions were/are cowardly, not that YOU are a coward)... because from where I'm sitting...you're actions are pathetic, and you have no clue as to who I am, what I do, or what my experiences have been.
3) I'm not here to name drop or try and "prove" the efficacy of what I've trained in, especially through wasting my time hunting for news articles. I know I've seen articles in the past where a TKD practitioner or a shotokan guy have managed to difuse a mugging or a robbery (people get lucky)...it doesn't MEAN anything, skippy. But you're absolutely glowing after this article...are you really seeking validation in whatever it is you're training in so bad? If so, I have a brilliant idea...go walk around the rougher areas of your city late at night flashing a wad of cash...maybe then you can have some first hand experience instead of living vicariously through those who barely survived an encounter with providence looking over them.

Maybe if you hurry and do it soon, I won't have to respond to another one of your annoying posts.

Nobody can say with certainty that they can survive a knife attack. That's like going into a boxing match and expecting not to get hit, but instead of a punch, one slice or stab is enough to end your existence. The individual in the story lived because the first cut wasn't life threatening. Lucky. They were then able to deploy their own knife...which...hey...wait a second...isn't carrying a concealed knife illegal in that state? Also VERY lucky...

First, nobody guaranteed anything, Garland. You just keep exaggerating that point over and over again to make it seem that it was ever stated that anyone did. You're just so bent on defending "nothing is impossible", when that's already a given. That's the entirety of your argument. You are a scholar, and that's fine but your semantics have crossed the line into just lying when you make it seem as though anyone has guaranteed an outcome.

Second, I don't need any validation. This is one of many, many examples that I chose to share. I don't come here beating my chest saying that what I do is better than what you do, or what any one does. In fact, I rarely if ever discuss my teachers, the systems I've studied or what organizations I belong to.

The thing is Garland ... I don't need to.

You've never in the years that I've posted here seen me write that anyone should stop learning anything. If someone is happy with what they are doing, then live and let live. I have basically discussed distinctions, and many of them. I have the training and experience to discuss these things without having to drop names or endorse any particular system. I don't need to sell you or any one else on my beliefs and training, and I won't ever try. I wouldn't waste my time or disrespect my teachers by trying to prove anything to people over the internet.

This is just one article. Even if I produced 100 more you'd still argue that its a drop in the ocean of the world population, and you'd be right about that point. But I notice that in a world of billions of people and articles you still can't produce even one article about you or one of your brothers in tae-bo surviving let alone winning a mugging situation.

Here it is though:

I started this topic to discuss this article. The man in the story is from the same family. What about my post offended you so much that you needed to come running out talking shit? Was it my reference to Brewer's statement about being able to plan and calculate in situations like this article?

The man in the article and what I know he can do ... that's what I've talked about here. But here you come saying "this is bull ... this proves nothing ... luck played a roll ...".

As I said from the beginning, I shared the story to show how a real mugging unfolds and not the nice and neat sparring matches you and some others here pretend muggings to be. You know ... the kind where you can tae-bo or wrestle with men with knives?

Luck plays a role in every step you take and that's established. But for you, Garland, not to acknowledge that a man who was stabbed in the gut was able to assess the situation, deploy his weapon, take out all three of his attackers who were armed, call for help and survived to tell the story only shows that because you can't do it and clearly can't fathom anyone else doing it, you feel that you have to attribute it to luck. You're just as bad as the morons that insecurely attribute the pyramids to little green men from space because despite their self-perceived brilliance, they still can't explain or replicate them. They consider themselves scholars too, ya know.

Now how preposterous is that?

[Uke]

LOL! Just as I've been saying. You do nothing but repeat yourself over and over and over...

And you don't? ....................

[jubaji]

you still can't produce even one article about you or one of your brothers in tae-bo surviving let alone winning a mugging situation.

Did Garland ever claim that what he practiced was tae-bo? Or is that more of your lying bullshit, you dishonest pissy little no class punk?

[Tom Yum]

ROFLMAO, the last article I read about a wrestler was a local one where a college wrestler attacked a soldier with a maglight at Mcdonalds the soldier took the maglight and killed the wrestler with it. Finding an article where the sports fan survived the encounter (even the ones they start while armed against an unarmed opponent) ain't gonna be so easy, I'm betting all you get is more yapping from the mongrel with the scat fetish.

If I remember correctly, the wrestler slammed the solider down once or twice (on concrete) but the soldier remained calm and choked the wrestler out.

That's probably from the Army's current MAP program, which does include jj as well as other things. The soldier overcame the much larger, stronger adversary in any case.

[kingoftheforest]

Yes Uke facts are not welcome here.

The FACT that Alex Gong died in full gear after running out of his gym to assault a car thief is not proof here that Muy Thai may not work in a street situation.

The FACT that the information provided in the article you posted shows that the MA practiced on used in the mugging worked is of no consequence.

Its not hubris to continually call someone a

Lying sack of crap

after everyone of their posts.

What you are doing here is wrong Uke stop pointing out inconsistencies in other people's arguments. We don't take kindly to that 'round these here parts boy!





But it sure is fun to watch.

Remember if you disagree and back it up with facts your just being a jerk!!

[kingoftheforest]

If I remember correctly, the wrestler slammed the solider down once or twice (on concrete) but the soldier remained calm and choked the wrestler out.

That's probably from the Army's current MAP program, which does include jj as well as other things. The soldier overcame the much larger, stronger adversary in any case.

I believe in this instance the wrestler died as well. It happened in a parking lot not to far from here.

[TTEscrima]

The soldier overcame the much larger, stronger adversary in any case.

Yes, the unarmed soldier overcame the larger armed wrestler who attacked him, he took the wrestlers weapon and used it to kill the wrestler. Just one more example of a sport mindset versus a reality mindset. As we so often see in the news the reality is that the sport mindset gets those who rely on it killed when sports and/or macho posturing/squabbling aren't involved.

[TTEscrima]

Nobody can say with certainty that they can survive a knife attack.

That's very true, but there are high percentage and low percentage options. Wrestling, suplexing and pushing (all advocated by posters who claimed to have used them on this board as viable edged weapon defenses) or relying on the typical skills and reflexes honed in ring sports is about as low percentage as it gets in a knife encounter.

[TTEscrima]

I believe in this instance the wrestler died as well. It happened in a parking lot not to far from here.

Yep, he had a history of being an aggressive jerk and picking on people smaller than him, he paid for it with his life, no charges were filed against the soldier due to the witnesses, cameras and the wrestlers history as a loudmouthed troublemaker.

[jubaji]

Any time two people clash one will get the worst of it. Desperate and insecure theory-boys will try to read some universal truth into any anecdotes that support the ideas they are resting their fragile little egos upon and disregard any that do not.

[kingoftheforest]

Any time two people clash one will get the worst of it. Desperate and insecure theory-boys will try to read some universal truth into any anecdotes that support the ideas they are resting their fragile little egos upon and disregard any that do not.

At least you didn't reference poop in this post.


Here's your fine honed ring reaction. Is this what would happen if two guys jumped out with knives?

[jubaji]

Does this:

Good Samaritan Tries To Stop Robbery / Colorado Springs, Pueblo, Southern Colorado, Breaking News, News, Weather, School Closings, Traffic from KKTV 11 News

mean that football is 'the answer' for self defense? Or does it mean that guy on that day in that situation acted and had the physical attributes necessary to throw the punk out of the store? Oh no, theory-boy will say he should have been killed, and would in fact prefer that he had so he could say, "See? Nothing works for self-defense but my glorious Program X."

A muay thai fighter gets himself killed so, "Seeeeeee? It doesn't 'work'!"
If a muay thai fighter happens to thwart a robbery or assault does that then prove that it works? Does the 'truth' go back and forth with each individual situation?

[kingoftheforest]

Wow you've had lots of time to concentrate on this thread huh? Must've been what you were working on so dilligently when asked some very straight forward questions elsewhere.

And you managed to not use a defecation adage again. Good you get a Jubisnack.

[jubaji]

Wow you've had lots of time to concentrate on this thread huh? .

Not really, but thanks for asking asshole.