Running

[Tom Yum]

Actually I am, thanks for asking. I had problems sleeping early though not sleeping the normal 8-9 hours a day.
It has to do with school partly. I had to force myself to sleep early but it didn't work out well the first couple of days of school. I slept after I came back from school on my first day. Second day was on 3:30 am then it just became better

Sometimes if you skip a night of sleep, you'll go to bed early the next day.

Also if you 'earn' your sleep by working your but off, 6-7 hours sleep will feel like 10.

[Tom Yum]

I'm starting to really enjoy running. There's two schools of thought on running.

Old-School
A fellow I met from Laredo, who was at the top of his boxing game and also top ranked in the amateurs said that his old-school boxing coach, a die-hard from Mexico, would get him running up 7-9 miles every other day. This guy swore by it and said that he was able to spar 12-15 rounds per day when he trained. That's alot for amateur bouts, but still impressive.

Many of the muaythai camps start out their day with a 5 km morning run too.

Progressive
Alot of younger and more progressive coaches recommend interval training and running no more than 1.5 miles in any given day. The idea is that you allocate less time to running, get the biggest bang for your buck (high intensity) and can allocate more time to fight training. Its said that sprinting mimmicks the intensity of sparring and is therefore more sport-specific.

Who's right?

I think both schools are right. The medium-paced long distance old timers seem to be doing fine as are the progressive guys. In my humbled opinion, it makes more sense to build some endurance first with long-distance runs for several weeks, then switch out to intervals. If you aren't used to pounding the gravel and then decide to suddenly find yourself sprinting, you could injure your legs and find yourself sucking major wind, having no cardio at all.

[treelizard]

Run time down to 8:09!! Jan 31st was 8:53. This means that in six and a half weeks, I should meet my 7 minute goal, if I continue progressing at the rate I am now. I think I will give myself a bit longer, though, so as to avoid disappointment. Maybe 10 weeks. Then I can work on my secondary goal of 2 miles in 14 min.

Also it was 8:53 on the elliptical, which is much easier, and 8:09 on the treadmill. AND it was AFTER my warmup mile! This from the gal who used to wait an hour for the next train b/c she didn't feel like sprinting. If I can do it, anyone can do it.

[Tom Yum]

Go lizard of the tree!

[Tom Yum]

My legs are still healing from all the sprints, duck walking, squat thrusts, lunges, rabbit chasers etc. from the past 5 weeks.

Yesterday -

I swam 1,000 meters in 30 minutes.
Did some thai-pad drills: boxing, kicking and clinch knees - 1 hr.

The kicking was the hardest part. The tendons connecting my quads to my hips are really sensitive, so I could not explode my kicks at the last second like I needed to, so I worked mostly on boxing, kneeing and elbows.

[treelizard]

You need some salve or thai oil, liniment or dit da jow, and plenty of bath salts or at least epsom salt and mustart and ginger powder in the bath.

Today I ran my mile in 7:47, but then I felt like I was gonna pass out or something, so I screwed up the other 22:13 minutes of cardio by stationary biking really slowly.

[seany85]

Tom can you expand on what rabbit chasers are? Just I havent heard of them before.

[Tom Yum]

Tom can you expand on what rabbit chasers are? Just I havent heard of them before.

I've talked to some gym people and told them about 'chase the rabbit'. The gym people call it 'mountain climbers'.

If you don't know what a mountain climber is, here's a general description:

1. Get into position of having just your hands and legs touching the ground.
2. Pull one knee forward until its a few inches away from your chest (its like the starting block position of a sprinter).
3. Kick the forward leg back while pulling the other one near your chest.
4. Repeat. Make sure you stomp the ground with the foot of your forward knee - no toe tapping.

[Tom Yum]

You need some salve or thai oil, liniment or dit da jow, and plenty of bath salts or at least epsom salt and mustart and ginger powder in the bath.

Today I ran my mile in 7:47, but then I felt like I was gonna pass out or something, so I screwed up the other 22:13 minutes of cardio by stationary biking really slowly.

Thanks, treeliz! I'm thinking about getting tiger balm. Is that a good brand?

You're time is getting tighter.

I understand your run situation. The bootcamp I just finished had us doing high-intensity running and calisthenics one after the other with little rest. For example, we'd do sprints up a hill, followed by a medium distance jog, then some quick sets of 8-count body builders, push ups, flutter kicks, duck walks (in 6" mud - oooo the legs love it) then sprint races (looser gets to do divebombers) and more.....

[eXcessiveForce]

I like tiger balm. There is red and white. I usually get white


Keep going, My best ever time was 5 minute mile, thought I was gonna die. lol

If you keep pushing yourself it's amazing what you can accomplish

[Tom Yum]

I lifted weights for general strength training and to decrease the chance of future injuries, especially in the legs. My legs were undeprepaired for the rigors of bootcamp, but prepaired just enough so that I could survive.

Pull-ups 4 sets 10-13 reps
Lateral Pulldowns 3 sets 10 reps
Shoulder Presses 5 sets 10 reps
Dive bombers 3 sets 15 reps
Barbell curls 5 sets 8-10 reps
Dips 2 sets 35-40 reps
Squats 6 sets 8-10 reps
Lunges (w/pack) 4 sets 50 yards - legs are screaming here
Horse stance 3 sets 1:30 ea.

I'm going to see if my legs will let me run tomorrow.

[treelizard]

I prefer zen gu shui to tiger balm... But that's me.

Today I went to pilates early in the morning. We had a substitute pilates instructor and she scared me. And then I tried to go fast on the bike while reading this godawful Marge Piercy book that someone left at the gym. Couldn't put the stupid thing down. Hard to keep remembering to go fast when you're reading bad novels.

I think I'm gonna alternate, go too fast one day and too slow the next.

[blitz]

I lifted weights for general strength training and to decrease the chance of future injuries, especially in the legs. My legs were undeprepaired for the rigors of bootcamp, but prepaired just enough so that I could survive.

Pull-ups 4 sets 10-13 reps
Lateral Pulldowns 3 sets 10 reps
Shoulder Presses 5 sets 10 reps
Dive bombers 3 sets 15 reps
Barbell curls 5 sets 8-10 reps
Dips 2 sets 35-40 reps
Squats 6 sets 8-10 reps
Lunges (w/pack) 4 sets 50 yards - legs are screaming here
Horse stance 3 sets 1:30 ea.

I'm going to see if my legs will let me run tomorrow.

Your weightlifting routine is wierd.. I don't see how you do back/shoulder/legs in one day. And I thought I overtrained when I lifted =/

[treelizard]

Today I was already sore before I got to the gym and had been on my feet for eight hours, so I was not in the mood to get on the fucking elliptical or treadmill yet again. It was actually cold and wet and blustery today in the ol' pueblo, and in fact a tumbleweed drove into my car. Oh yeah, so I couldn't swim, that was the point of that sentence. It's late and I'm tired. So anyways, I did 12 minutes on the stairmaster and 8 minutes on the rowing machine and then the remaining ten minutes on the bike. Then I went home and tried to train but I'm still so sore from yesterday's class and am supposed to review the stuff we went over, but it was hard to move my arms even without the sticks. I'm gonna meditate and go to bed, damn it. Tomorrow if it is not freezing I will swim for 30 min. SOMEthing.

[treelizard]

Today I met with my training partner and kept messing up this one drill I can do on my own but not with anyone else because I will accidentally mirror the person instead of doing it on the opposite side, if that makes sense. My training partner asked me to pick another drill to do to get my mind off of it and then go back to it to see if I improved it. I suggested 20 pushups and then did the drill perfectly. He told me I have one week to let our instructor know pushups helped me before he does.