Wing Chun or Muay Thai

[Rudolphuss]

No, he learned Pachi Tanglang way before he learned MT. He only learned MT to familiarize himself with MT rules so that he could pick apart MT fighters, and he did. So combining traditional Kung Fu with MT/Sanshou does work.

[CKD]

Notice he said combined Sherwinc and not that kung fu could take on muay thai by himself. He used muay thai more than kung fu in his fights.

[sherwinc]

another disadvantages of muay thai boxing

Notice he said combined Sherwinc and not that kung fu could take on muay thai by himself. He used muay thai more than kung fu in his fights.

The disadvantages of muay thai is even thou they have a very strong legs yet they are the most candidate for the very weak legs cause they often raised their legs while in fighting position to wingchun's advantages.

wingchun's forearm is much stronger than muay thai's forearm.

yet muay thai's legs is much stronger than wingchun but wingchun's low kicks is much stronger than muaythai's all kinds of kicks.

and all muay thai as long as they get older of age get deteriorated and having no limiment oil on thier shin bone training with a complication in later years.
while we wingchun as long as we get older if it is still continue practice the better and the most power art we wingchun benefit it.

[CKD]

The muay thai stance is not a one legged stance! Wing Chun can not take advantage of a one legged stance in muay thai because muay thai has one stance and it is not one legged!

[sherwinc]

here's another disadvantages for Muay Thai....

The muay thai stance is not a one legged stance! Wing Chun can not take advantage of a one legged stance in muay thai because muay thai has one stance and it is not one legged!

Since you Muay Thai prefers only in a "One raise knee Stance" position, you have only 50% of your gravity since your lead knee is always raised. Now, i take advantage of your 50% gravity left and it is one of a good reason that i can push you to the wall or drop you to the ground using Tai Chi's Ward Off or Tai Chi's Roll Back....

Note:
i did not yet mention Tai Chi's Press and Push, your disadvantages is you always stand on one leg. And that is your dis-advantages.

[CKD]

Sherwinc I have done kung fu and other arts I am pretty sure I know what I am talking about. The muay thai stance has both feet on the ground not one foot of the ground like several tai chi stances.

[Tom Yum]

Sherwinc I have done kung fu and other arts I am pretty sure I know what I am talking about. The muay thai stance has both feet on the ground not one foot of the ground like several tai chi stances.

No sense in beating a dead horse with sherwin; he sees a picture of muay thai and then knows everything about it.

[William Eriepa]

I meant that if some TKD guy tried one of his big stupid kicks on me (for example), he would need lots of LUCK to make it count. He's most likely end up on his face b/c as soon as his back is exposed, he'd be tackled face-down, straight into the ground

It's quite clear you've never experienced a proper hook kick in a spar like situation. A hook kick properly executed is hard enough to block or evade, and near immpossible to "tackle".
It's all good to reason in theory, that because his back is faced towards you (albeit only for a faction of a second), you should be able to rush in and tackle him, but in reality the moment you see your opening you've already lost it.

yet muay thai's legs is much stronger than wingchun but wingchun's low kicks is much stronger than muaythai's all kinds of kicks.

lol, your womanly kicks? Yea right.

and all muay thai as long as they get older of age get deteriorated and having no limiment oil on thier shin bone training with a complication in later years.
while we wingchun as long as we get older if it is still continue practice the better and the most power art we wingchun benefit it.

Do you live on Mars or something? Muay Thai conditioning of the body leads to adaption. The body is hurt, the body is healed, the body adpats. An old Muay Thai fighter that has conditioned his shins throughout his life is goping to have a more stronger and durable shin bone than someone who has not. These so called "complications" you speak of are unfounded rumours. I know many older Kickboxers with well conditioned legs that are still healthy and living well.
And uhh, just your english man, all the grammer and stuff is all out. Maybe you should take some more time putting your words together?

Now, i take advantage of your 50% gravity left and it is one of a good reason that i can push you to the wall or drop you to the ground using Tai Chi's Ward Off or Tai Chi's Roll Back....

Try it and you'll taste my foot . It's all good to theorize all of this, but you ain't going to simply walk in and push me.

Sherwinc I have done kung fu and other arts I am pretty sure I know what I am talking about. The muay thai stance has both feet on the ground not one foot of the ground like several tai chi stances.

I know, it's hard to understand the english of sherwinc. But he's saying that Muay Thai's lead foot is light legged, since most of the weight is distrubuted to the backfoot.

[CKD]

Muay thais weight is distributed on the back foot? don't know bout that I just know it is not a one legged stance. But apparently so far no kung fu master has ever taken advantage of it. Bruce Lee said kung fu could not beat muay thai and so he learned it.

[Rudolphuss]

Bruce Lee said kung fu could not beat muay thai and so he learned it.

He said that? Do you have a reliable source to back it up? Like an article, maybe?

[CKD]

Bruce Lee belated this problem to Bob Wall. Saying that kung fu has a history of beating muay thai, muay thai superior. I know Bruce Lee took muay thai as well. I will try to find the article that had it.

[William Eriepa]

Muay thais weight is distributed on the back foot? don't know bout that I just know it is not a one legged stance.

Well then you obviously don't know Muay Thai, let alone practised it.

[CKD]

Naa I am not a practitioner of muay thai.My art incorperates the kicks and stuff but I do not use the stance.

[William Eriepa]

It's an easy stance to do. Legs slighty wider than shoulders, lead leg knee is raised and just the toes of your foot are on contact with the floor.

[sherwinc]

you did not answer my questions.... you must defend

lol, your womanly kicks? Yea right..

WingChun Low Kicks versus Muay Thai Kicks
You study kungfu yet you wont believe that Low Kicks is more powerful than high kicks. And Low kick is much more faster than highkicks. And Low Kicks are non-telegraphic compare to Muay Thai kicks. Low kicks is best to execute in rapid multiple low kicks in the same target while Muay Thai Kicks is shit kick. Now, if Muay Thai Kicks is a "Shit" kick, then KickBoxing of yours is a "BullShit" kick.

note:
Kickboxing cannot defeat ThaiBoxing.

Do you live on Mars or something? Muay Thai conditioning of the body leads to adaption. The body is hurt, the body is healed, the body adpats. An old Muay Thai fighter that has conditioned his shins throughout his life is goping to have a more stronger and durable shin bone than someone who has not. These so called "complications" you speak of are unfounded rumours. I know many older Kickboxers with well conditioned legs that are still healthy and living well.
And uhh, just your english man, all the grammer and stuff is all out. Maybe you should take some more time putting your words together?


Try it and you'll taste my foot . It's all good to theorize all of this, but you ain't going to simply walk in and push me.


I know, it's hard to understand the english of sherwinc. But he's saying that Muay Thai's lead foot is light legged, since most of the weight is distrubuted to the backfoot.

My Grammar?
hehehe, at least i know some English of yours and you - you dont know any Filipino Dialect.

hehehe, at least i know kungfu, yet you - you know kungfu but you still dont know the benefits and purpose of low kicks is much more invincible than Thai Kicks or KickBoxing kicks of yours.