William Cheung's Traditional Wing Chun

[Tameo]

How do they find the centerline better? Do Lam and Chu keep their feet flat on the ground while they move like most Wing Chun? B/c if u were to fight on grass or pavement, ive found it hard to pivot and slide my feet. I do kow that Chi-Sao is focused more in other lineages as opposed to TWC.

To go off topic a little, i was just watching Van Damme on TV and came across this question. Y do u think Wing Chun has never been exposed in movies or the media? Karate, Tae Kwon Doe and now Muay Thai r being used in most fighting movies whether they r martial arts or not. These arts are flashy with the feet, but i feel that Wing Chun has some very flashy tech. as well. Also, it is more economical than the other arts. If pple thought Seagal was cool with Aikido, they're definitely going to like WC.

IMO, Martial Arts films r on the decline, besides Jackie Chan's Rush Hour, they aren't overly popular. Jackie Chan and Jet Li's recent box office returns have barely been able to cover prodcution/marketing costs. Li, Chan, and Tony Jaa were mainly praised due to their stunts and acrobatics. Of course Jaa, Chan and Li had good fight scenes, but pple mainyl remeber Jackie Chan for his rooftop balcony jump from Rumble from the Bronx and Tony Jaa for his splits/slide under the jeep and him jumping and running off the shoudlers of his attackers. I think pple need to be introduced to a new martial art. Besides Tony Jaa, (who has done gymnastics), i think pple will be intrigued with WC if it were to be used exclusively in a movie. Wut u think?

Sifu Joe Sayah used it in "Once upon a time in china and america"... wasnt really successfull. I dont do MA for how flashy they look but for how effective they are. Btw feet do not stay flat all the time in these lineages. It all depends on the circumstances and surface conditions. Sometimes its better to lift your feet sometimes its more economical to slide them or pivot in place. In TWC class with joe sayah we had chi sao 3 times a week in most other schools including these two lineages they do it every day.

[Yu Law]

Gar Lam and Chu find the center alot better than William cheung and are able to take the opponent's balance way better. They are alot more sticky in chi sao and have a much stronger root. They use their whole body especially Robert Chu. William Cheung just uses his hands. TWC footwork is not economical. There are no pivoting motions which are really usefull in many situations when you dont have time to lift your feet. TWC focuses to much on techniques but doesnt know how to use they whole body. The structures of many of the blocks are also weak in twc.

How do they find the centerline better? Do Lam and Chu keep their feet flat on the ground while they move like most Wing Chun? B/c if u were to fight on grass or pavement, ive found it hard to pivot and slide my feet. I do kow that Chi-Sao is focused more in other lineages as opposed to TWC.

To go off topic a little, i was just watching Van Damme on TV and came across this question. Y do u think Wing Chun has never been exposed in movies or the media? Karate, Tae Kwon Doe and now Muay Thai r being used in most fighting movies whether they r martial arts or not. These arts are flashy with the feet, but i feel that Wing Chun has some very flashy tech. as well. Also, it is more economical than the other arts. If pple thought Seagal was cool with Aikido, they're definitely going to like WC.

IMO, Martial Arts films r on the decline, besides Jackie Chan's Rush Hour, they aren't overly popular. Jackie Chan and Jet Li's recent box office returns have barely been able to cover prodcution/marketing costs. Li, Chan, and Tony Jaa were mainly praised due to their stunts and acrobatics. Of course Jaa, Chan and Li had good fight scenes, but pple mainyl remeber Jackie Chan for his rooftop balcony jump from Rumble from the Bronx and Tony Jaa for his splits/slide under the jeep and him jumping and running off the shoudlers of his attackers. I think pple need to be introduced to a new martial art. Besides Tony Jaa, (who has done gymnastics), i think pple will be intrigued with WC if it were to be used exclusively in a movie. Wut u think?

[Tameo]

What's the main diff. btw Gary Lam. Robert Chu and William Cheung? I do know that a lot of the styles dont have footwork. TWC focuses mainly on the center line attacks and move back as well as forward.

Gar Lam and Chu find the center alot better than William cheung and are able to take the opponent's balance way better. They are alot more sticky in chi sao and have a much stronger root. They use their whole body especially Robert Chu. William Cheung just uses his hands. TWC footwork is not economical. There are no pivoting motions which are really usefull in many situations when you dont have time to lift your feet. TWC focuses to much on techniques but doesnt know how to use they whole body. The structures of many of the blocks are also weak in twc.

[Yu Law]

I do a combination of different lineages, one of them is Gary Lam the other Robert Chu. I still practice some William Cheung stuff but its mostly just for speed training and fancy stuff, at wrist range. I also do South Mantis (Amazing Teacher), some white lotus kung-fu and some boxing so i dont get thrown off their game. Also some other stuff my sifu is showing me from another system.

What's the main diff. btw Gary Lam. Robert Chu and William Cheung? I do know that a lot of the styles dont have footwork. TWC focuses mainly on the center line attacks and move back as well as forward.

[Tameo]

what lineage r u doing? u have failed to mention it.

I do a combination of different lineages, one of them is Gary Lam the other Robert Chu. I still practice some William Cheung stuff but its mostly just for speed training and fancy stuff, at wrist range. I also do South Mantis (Amazing Teacher), some white lotus kung-fu and some boxing so i dont get thrown off their game. Also some other stuff my sifu is showing me from another system.

[Yu Law]

Boztepe did wrestling and boxing at the time and he just pushed william cheung over because william cheung doesnt even know how to stand properly. How can you throw an effective punch or strike if you cant even stand? none of the guys from my kung-fu school under Sifu joe sayah could stand properly. Now i see that after being humiliated by beginners in another wing chun lineage. No root at all in gm cheung's lineage. He doesn't understand the concept.

what lineage r u doing? u have failed to mention it.

[Tameo]

I seriously doubt that. BTW you dont even need to know how to fight that well to kill someone so even if he did there is nothing impressive about it. Doent make him a better fighter or matrial artist.

[Hardball]

I dont care who he is i just know that his wing chun isn't that good.

Grandmaster Chueng has Killed people with Wing Chun!!!!

[Tameo]

I dont care who he is i just know that his wing chun isn't that good.

[Hardball]

i know that but his angles arent even correct and the way he does it is wrong.

Did you hear about all those guys Grandmaster Chueng "Iced" when they had the hit on him in China? Why do you think he lives in Australlia? The man is a Killer...........................

[gabbah]

Are you guys talking about the five point death strike as seen on Kill Bill, the one that makes your heart explode before you have taken five steps?

[Tameo]

GM Chueng teaches penetrating Bil Gee at angles. He doesn't promote going straight in with thrusting fingers. (Bil Gee)

i know that but his angles arent even correct and the way he does it is wrong.

[Hardball]

his bui jee is crap compared to some other bui jees out there. His bui jee cant penetrate the target at all. He would break his fingers if he went against someone who knew how to tighten muscles at the right times.

GM Chueng teaches penetrating Bil Gee at angles. He doesn't promote going straight in with thrusting fingers. (Bil Gee)

[Tameo]

im convinced

[Tom Yum]

his bui jee is crap compared to some other bui zhees out there. His bui zhee cant penetrate the target at all. He would break his fingers if he went against someone who knew how to tighten muscles at the write times.

His bui jee not nearly as good as other bui jee, because his bui jee is strong like the alphabet. since his alphabets are many he can spell many words and words can control your words...

....CONVINCED?!?!?!?!


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