why no kung fu art can defeat mma

[shaolin-warrior]

this is all unirrelevant

[jubaji]

I don't know why people are slating English grammar - Britain is divided into numerous sections where grammar differs.

What a transparent cop-out.





Lazy bastard.

[funnytiger]

Non standard in this case means it is what we call in dutch a contamination, don't know if it is called the same in english
Contaminations are being used by people but they are still wrong use of the language
aks instead of ask is used a lot in the US, still it is not correct English no matter if it is used in the real world
However they are still understood just fine therefore Non Standard
In this case it is explained that Ir in front negates the less at the end

double negatives are can be tricky as non english speakers might apply the rules strickly and get the opposite impression of what was meant

Other than that forums are no place for language purists ( unless the forum is about language

Thank you, Toudiyama. That was all I was trying to say.

But Funnytiger, you are in the middle of this, and if you have a problem, come and see me

Oooo... BIG man. You want to pick a fight because you don't like to be corrected? Come on. Seriously.

Seriously... lol

- ft

[Red Rum]

This thread was stupid to start with and it just keeps getting worse (or 'worster' as Red Rum might say).

I don't know why people are slating english grammar - Britain is divided into numerous sections where grammar differs. A northern guy will never speak or write the same as a Londoner. Doesn't mean either of them are more/less intelligent than the other

When the hell did this martial arts forum turn into a grammar contest?

What happens if people use abbreviations? Is that legal by your standards?

And if there are people from other countries using this forum who struggle with their english, you guys are being extremely unwelcome towards them

American guys all use incorrect spelling if we are going by the Oxford dictionary (colour, color, etc), but who cares? The Americans sure don't.

[jubaji]

This thread was stupid to start with and it just keeps getting worse (or 'worster' as Red Rum might say).

[Toudiyama[NL]]

Non standard in this case means it is what we call in dutch a contamination, don't know if it is called the same in english
Contaminations are being used by people but they are still wrong use of the language
aks instead of ask is used a lot in the US, still it is not correct English no matter if it is used in the real world
However they are still understood just fine therefore Non Standard
In this case it is explained that Ir in front negates the less at the end

double negatives are can be tricky as non english speakers might apply the rules strickly and get the opposite impression of what was meant

Other than that forums are no place for language purists ( unless the forum is about language)

[Red Rum]

LOL, did you even bother to read what dictionary.com had to say? When it says nonstandard that basically means its not a real word.



Not trying to get in the middle of this, I just thought it was funny that you posted a link to try and debunk what was originally stated only to just post a link that proves it.

cheers!

Actually non-standard does not mean that it is not a real word.
It means that it is not commonly used in the English language, BUT IS STILL USED. Hell, I was watching a documentuary where a Professor of philosophy actually said the word and it made me think of this forum.

Like I said, no matter what you think is right or wrong there is always another interperatation

But Funnytiger, you are in the middle of this, and if you have a problem, come and see me

[funnytiger]

That is worthy of debate...
With regards to IRREGARDLESS, please see http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irregardless

LOL, did you even bother to read what dictionary.com had to say? When it says nonstandard that basically means its not a real word.

Usage Note: Irregardless is a word that many mistakenly believe to be correct usage in formal style, when in fact it is used chiefly in nonstandard speech or casual writing. Coined in the United States in the early 20th century, it has met with a blizzard of condemnation for being an improper yoking of irrespective and regardless and for the logical absurdity of combining the negative ir- prefix and -less suffix in a single term. Although one might reasonably argue that it is no different from words with redundant affixes like debone and unravel, it has been considered a blunder for decades and will probably continue to be so.

Not trying to get in the middle of this, I just thought it was funny that you posted a link to try and debunk what was originally stated only to just post a link that proves it.

cheers!

[Red Rum]

What I love about Garland, is that even though he is a young, next generation guy-he speaks better English then most people my own age.

"Irregardless" is not a word, and never was!

And another thing that bothers me is when people say "off of", as in "I had to take this hat off of my head".

The correct English would be " I had to take this hat off my head"

That is worthy of debate...
With regards to IRREGARDLESS, please see http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irregardless

'off of' is almost certainly correct English. It suggests that the head is an object. If I was to just use 'off' without 'of' I would need to say 'hat off'.
As in 'I had to take this hat off'.
It was once known (in the 19th century) to be quoted as 'off from my head'

Don't always be so quick to slate someone's English.
The English language has changed numerous times over the centuries and the tone of your post sounded critical.

Are you going to criticize every person who cannot speak fluent English that conforms to your ideal of language?

[jubaji]

What I love about Garland, is that even though he is a young, next generation guy-he speaks better English then most people my own age.

"Irregardless" is not a word, and never was!

And another thing that bothers me is when people say "off of", as in "I had to take this hat off of my head".

The correct English would be " I had to take this hat off my head"

That's good, but what exactly inspired those comments here?

[jubaji]

Can't deny it...

[DickHardman]

I was sort of surprised that I hadn't even broken the skin after such a tremendous collision. Then I looked over and saw that the Harvard guy was out cold on his back, not moving a muscle. He didn't come to the entire time he was in the gym. The EMT guys loaded him on a stretcher and took him away and he never so much as batted an eyelash. Our trainer checked up on him later and said he was ok, but he missed the rest of the season.

we always knew you had a hard head.....

[Tom Yum]

LOL

It just so happened that we both decided to shoot for a double at the exact same time. Both lowered level and shot (and we were both pretty damn fast) at the exact same moment. The 'clang' of skulls filled the gym and the folks in the stands did one of those collective "Oh!" things, and many of them immediately looked away, not wanting to see the consequences. .

Sounds like you were trying to re-enact ancient shuai jiao.

Well, I sort of jumped back and put a hand to my head and then looked at the hand, expecting to see blood. I was sort of surprised that I hadn't even broken the skin after such a tremendous collision. Then I looked over and saw that the Harvard guy was out cold on his back, not moving a muscle. He didn't come to the entire time he was in the gym. The EMT guys loaded him on a stretcher and took him away and he never so much as batted an eyelash. Our trainer checked up on him later and said he was ok, but he missed the rest of the season.

Was the Harvard guy forced to settle for an MBA after the accident? jk.

Harvard MBA = Next CEO

[jubaji]

Can you do that? A submissions tournament sans striking and knock the other person out? I guess if the fighter does some hard judo-esque slam or some shit...

LOL

I have knocked some folks out in wrestling matches. One amusing case was when I was in college and I was wrestling this guy from Harvard. It just so happened that we both decided to shoot for a double at the exact same time. Both lowered level and shot (and we were both pretty damn fast) at the exact same moment. The 'clang' of skulls filled the gym and the folks in the stands did one of those collective "Oh!" things, and many of them immediately looked away, not wanting to see the consequences. Well, I sort of jumped back and put a hand to my head and then looked at the hand, expecting to see blood. I was sort of surprised that I hadn't even broken the skin after such a tremendous collision. Then I looked over and saw that the Harvard guy was out cold on his back, not moving a muscle. He didn't come to the entire time he was in the gym. The EMT guys loaded him on a stretcher and took him away and he never so much as batted an eyelash. Our trainer checked up on him later and said he was ok, but he missed the rest of the season.

[Red Rum]

Can you do that? A submissions tournament sans striking and knock the other person out? I guess if the fighter does some hard judo-esque slam or some shit...

I did it by accident once. I was training with a big partner and as I went for a takedown his head hit the floor and he went out cold.

The point was that you can't really do it in a BJJ tournament. Most of the time the rules prevent you from striking and it is very difficult to KO someone if you are used to submission fighting