Tai Chi,good self-defense art or not?

[Red Rum]

Come on guys lets all chill out....

Lucidimist - don't get too deep man. It's a fun forum that I don't take too seriously. People have their opinions and most of the people on here have posted nonsense (including me).

Garland and jubajii - chill dudes. If we all keep on like this, this website won't have any members left

Now let's go get a beer

[jubaji]

talk about out of touch with reality...

Whoa...this nut has gone further off the deep end than I expected...

[lucidmist]

and don't worry, if you want me to leave this forum, i get the message. you can rejoice that you "won" this little internet fight. three cheers for you two internet forum "champs".

and add another wiseguy crack or sarcastic remark or insult to this. you're that predictable.

i've unsubscribed to this thread, put you both on ignore. i won't be able to read your posts and receive any notification emails. you're definitely ecstatic, so glad i made your day.

[lucidmist]

i was nearly a crazy person back then. before i went to bed every night, i thought about various ways to block or attack. i'd stay up till way past 4am - 5am just trying out different ways to avert attacks and launch attacks. throughout the day, over and over in my head i would see different ways and methods of fights from start and finish, not practical but just obssessed with all these thoughts. once i'm home, i'd pick up various sized rods i have in my room and start striking my own shins and forearms. that was all before i even knew about muay thai or how people trained to fight. and i had a habit of tossing a 15-pound dumbbell and catching the handle with the base (near the wrist) of my open palm when it landed, without closing my hand into a grip, cos i realized that worked my forearm even more than gripping exercises or tossing and catching it with a closed grip. somehow catching the dumbbell with the open palm added a little more strain to my arm, and forced my concentration. yes, 15-pound dumbbell tossing is weak and you can probably do much better, but i never said i was strong. but i never lost a handshake battle although i can't win in most arm wrestling matches. there are more obssessed people than me, that's why i don't want to meet someone crazier. he'll kill me.

i never wanted to share all these things i did before because they were stupid, inconsequential, unimportant and foolish. and i know you'd be quick to comment "yes spare us the boring details" or that "it's rubbish and unimportant trash" or heck, you might even just say "you're right, it's rubbish". nothing useful or practical for anyone but at least whatever little knowledge i had from those experiences, were what i posted up. the reason why i've never mentioned anything was because millions of people went through worse hell than i ever did, so no one's gonna be interested in my life. heck, even i'm not interested in my life! if you wanna say "you're right, no one's interested", go ahead. i know no one is. i'm not either! i just wanna have a simple life without trouble!

you can drown in my boring life events, scorn them and whatever, but my posts were based on what i went through. taichi calmed me down alot to the extent that i knew when to stop hitting instead of my usual non-stop crazy pounding even when the man stopped fighting. but man, i never said i wasn't afraid. the moment i see cops arrive, i always felt my world crumbling down. i was never a tough guy. many people are tough enough to handle such things. i never could. not when i could see the faces on my family members. the look of despair that there was nothing they could do to save me, and the look of disappointment they had in me afterwards. i wish i was a tough guy to handle all these things, but i wasn't born a "tough guy". i still am not.

i'm not a good fighter, i'm a hypocrite, not strong, not tough, weak for fearing trouble, i suck in life, my posts are moronic and a waste of time, i'm egoistic, call it what you will. heck, i can foresee you quoting this paragraph just to get a kick. do it. you guys are that predictable. and i'm sure you're predictable enough to definitely launch another insulting and sarcastic reply. that's what you do only.

i just want a simple life. one can try to be the toughest person around, but ultimately, we have to answer to the law, to our own conscience, and to God.

[lucidmist]

first off, my opinions on taichi were not assumptions. i'm no expert, but i did use it in combat! i fought many fights to know that although i could defend myself and get home alive, it didn't toughen me that much, and as such, i said in my previous posts that no way a taichi guy can hold up against a good muay thai guy, because MOST (not all) taichi training are missing the combat element. i don't know about a well-trained combat taichi guy though, because like i said, i certainly am not one. i did see my teacher spar with muay thai guys and boxers who came to join our class, and brought them down very easily. that's why i spoke about stability, footwork and balance, because he knew how to use those to his advantange. he didn't even have to move around much from his original position! but i also did add that maybe those muay thai and boxing guys weren't really that good, that was why he could beat them. but maybe he could have beaten the good ones too, i don't know. and man, if you need me to outline that in our previous posts we were not talking about a bedridden muay thai guy or boxers, then you're missing a sound common sense.

secondly, i near killed my officer during my army days when he outweighed me by about a hundred pounds. i don't know how i did it, i'm not saying i'm good at fighting even. a group of my army buddies tried to hold me back, they were all bigger than i was, but i dragged them along and swept them away before grabbing my bayonet and near plunging it into my officer. that was when they arrested me and locked me up. i don't know where i got my strength from because although i did lift weights, it was nothing near the bodybuilding type or conditioning that boxers go through. my only consistent form of physical training was the seemingly "weak" taichi, and i'm no fighter! i was freaking lucky my army buddies were witnesses to the whole thing and testified against the officer, got him demoted and got me a light one.

thirdly, no matter how many times i went through fights in the streets, somehow i knew where punches and kicks were coming from, and i could either dodge or deflect them in time. OF COURSE I GET HIT. i'm saying most times i could save myself and avert the vital ones aimed for my head and groin/leg areas. i don't know how because i really don't know how to even start a fight! i just stand there, wait, and when they attack me i just naturally know where to turn, where and when and how to defend and return hits. but i know my striking power is not enough because i never trained much in consistent punching! that's why i said i was lucky nobody was persistent enough to keep pushing the fight or bring out knives! and i did say, had those guys continued, i would've lucked out because my strength and stamina wouldn't have lasted! i never once said i was a good fighter, all my opinions were based on what i went through! and i kept emphasizing i wasn't good at fighting, just lucky i never met the really tough opponents!!!

and about analyzing the video techniques, man i was just talking about it being farfetched and if you read what i wrote completely, i was talking about the specific bits and saying the techniques were BS because it wasn't practical at all! that i know from experience, but i also did say maybe i just didn't experience enough fights and i don't want to! but technique talk is far from rubbish because i have used my palm many many times to catch and block punches instinctively. i know logically many people will say it shouldn't work and that it should hurt, but i don't know why or how i always managed to block the punch and get away with it without any pain. but i never tried it on a knee attack! I DON'T KNOW HOW I DID IT AND I'M SAYING CLEARLY, I'M NOT A GOOD FIGHTER OR MASTER OF ANYTHING. If i was lucky, i want to be even luckier in that i wouldn't have to go through another fight or see another cop cos of another scrape that i was cornered into.

my family's so worried that before i step out of the house, they have to consistently remind me and call me after to check and ask me not to get into fights. i don't start fights but somehow people see me as weak and try to start something. i'm learning to walk away because i really don't want to hurt my family anymore.

i just used to have a very bad addiction to participating in illegal fights that a group of us held. we don't taunt or challenge people into it but request, invite or ask strangers and friends if they wanna participate. we had no clue how to referee or judge, so we let the fight go free-for-all. we didn't know that in a match, if someone fell, the person standing was supposed to back off, so we always let the fights continue. i've never trained in anything other than taichi and briefly in something called "khong chang" (cma) but i always could hold my own. i LOVED the adrenalin rush too much and i REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY LOVED the feeling of my fists connecting on someone and slamming my full body into him. the elbow connecting, watching them flail helplessly trying to grab on to anything they can, like my shirt and tearing it and digging their nails into my arms when they can't hit me. but up till this very minute, i am saying it very clearly that i am NOT NOT NOT a good fighter. i'm not strong, my stamina is bad. but i need to say these because what i posted was based on everything i had went through. and since i was a kid, i had a very high threshold for pain. before i understood what martial arts was about, i always made my brother and cousin hit me with metal bars. they'd pummel me with fists and strike my shins and forearms with metal bars while i blocked, but i'd always feel little pain. my mother (before she went missing) used to strangle me as a boy and drag me down flights of stairs by my hair and hit me with rods and belts but i never felt much pain. i had a 2-inch wide knife stab, a few gashes, before and a head stitch from a metal gate but even that didn't hurt. not during, not after. plenty of blood but no pain. so i can say alot depends on willpower too. but now i'm scared of all these things. SCARED. with family depending on me, kids around, i really really don't want to go through anything else cos of fighting outside!

as of today, martial arts remains interesting to me because i've always been fascinated with it. in the variety of styles and techniques and training systems. but i am not one made for fighting, and i am sick of the police hauling me away and having to see my family sad/hurt/angry. my grandma passed away worried about me, i'm already old, i am not interested in trouble. the funny thing is, i NEVER was interested in trouble.

[lucidmist]

and you talking about heat in the kitchen, about me making personal attacks, speak for yourself cos that was all you guys did right from the onset. you only know how to blame others, how to say i did this or that, whining about me calling you guys names. look at yourselves and at what you started. you did it all to me for no good reason. i did nothing like that at the beginning, and if you wanna trigger something then YOU end up being unable to take the heat, too bad. anyway, this is not a cooking class, no need to have heat. you wanna start a fire, go join the boy scouts.

if my opinions or my posts were wrong, or misguided, everytime i posted, i did add something like "i'm not very experienced, so just some thoughts". for little things like that, you started saying we sucked in life, calling me names and saying i sound like this and so and so. what was that for? i claimed nothing! i always did say that i wasn't an expert, and always did say i could be wrong, so advice me. if you're so knowledgeable and great, go hold an exhibition. don't waste your time over my trivial posts here. over-zealous? you were talking like a thug from the beginning, and there was no need for that, least of all in a supposed "mature discussion". if you truly wanted to share knowledge or help something, going all out by saying people "suck" and that people think they're masters of this or that, when I never even once claimed i was a master of anything. by doing that, you're the ones claiming to be the know-it-all's! so what was all that assumption for? in all my posts, even when i mentioned how i got out of my fights, i NEVER once said it was cos i was good. i attributed it to my luck, and how i don't even wanna pick a fight because i really am not a fighter. i've been to the police station one too many times, i have been locked away for awhile for violence and near killing someone, I REALLY DON'T WANT THAT. I've NEVER said i was good at fighting!

ah. you guys are just those who wanna kickstart trouble the moment you see an opportunity just to assert your positions to try and get attention to yourselves that you know plenty. guess what, if you know nothing, i'm not interested, and if you know something but can't add constructively except insult people the moment you see something you don't like, i truly don't give a damn about you. and if you're so "holier than thou" and high and mighty, then my trivial posts shouldn't be of any importance to your esteemed selves.

you dislike my posts, you can tear my posts down, part by part. i don't care. but insulting my character right from the start was unnecessary because even from my very first post, i was assertive, but i did not insult anyone. unlike you.

[jubaji]

Garland, jubajizz, you wanna continue attacking, that's ok man. hahaha, it's just becoming a funny daily joke man, you two.

LOL. and you two jokes, read the above by kingoftheforest. we certainly didn't start any of that till you two "GREAT" people came in here. in any event, hostility, personal attacks and insults were never called for. to achieve what? to prove you are tough guys? great. you proved that. you're so "tough" on this forum. and ooh, but calling names and hurling vulgarities and insults the moment you step in definitely put you up there in the "knowledge" department. and definitely, you're in no position to judge whose post made no sense. but of yeah, you're the high and mighty who come in here to put people "in check". i forgot, i forgot. the forum police! you're doing a great job, copper!

there is a reason why in any forum, rules like "no personal attacks" or "no insults" are laid. but you're just too much of a joke to understand why.

and jubajizzabel, thanks for the attention just over one post, i'm sorry i have to reject you girl but i'm straight. you're barking up the wrong tree.

thanks for the entertainment, clowns! this HAS been fun!

LOL! Thus exposed, the headcase is really coming unhinged!





Too easy.

[lucidmist]

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Garland, jubajizz, you wanna continue attacking, that's ok man. hahaha, it's just becoming a funny daily joke man, you two.

LOL. and you two jokes, read the above by kingoftheforest. we certainly didn't start any of that till you two "GREAT" people came in here. in any event, hostility, personal attacks and insults were never called for. to achieve what? to prove you are tough guys? great. you proved that. you're so "tough" on this forum. and ooh, but calling names and hurling vulgarities and insults the moment you step in definitely put you up there in the "knowledge" department. and definitely, you're in no position to judge whose post made no sense. but of yeah, you're the high and mighty who come in here to put people "in check". i forgot, i forgot. the forum police! you're doing a great job, copper!

there is a reason why in any forum, rules like "no personal attacks" or "no insults" are laid. but you're just too much of a joke to understand why.

and jubajizzabel, thanks for the attention just over one post, i'm sorry i have to reject you girl but i'm straight. you're barking up the wrong tree.

thanks for the entertainment, clowns! this HAS been fun!

[jubaji]

At this point, I'm trying...I'm being cool....

This is disgusting. I've never read anything so offensive.

[jubaji]

There ya go, now you can stop even trying to pretend you are anything but a D-bag.

[lucidmist]

Seems like you're getting the hang of it just fine. Time to step off that high horse.

wow. such intelligent remarks. such an accomplished person who knows everything except to read properly. please. be your juvenile self or we won't recognize it's you. yes yes, that's what a forum is for. swearing, cussing, etc etc. glad we have you to show what class and knowledge is truly about!

[lucidmist]

You must agree with me if its bothering you so much.


Oh, btw...

hahaha! juvenile! that should be your new nick. thanks for the entertainment and the attention, no-lifer. and wow, one single post of mine got your long-term high and kind attention, you bothered to come back and forth to keep harping and brooding over it. hope you find something better to do, but if you don't, it's fine, just keep revolving over my words cos we know you don't have anything else more real than that LOL

[jubaji]

You must agree with me if its bothering you so much.


Oh, btw...

[lucidmist]

Its great that you apologized, but that doesn't give you a free pass to be a hypocrite.

hahaha, that coming from a guy who goes around using the "f" word freely on people, calling people names like "dope" and "moron" and much worse? then trying to kick up trouble with me over my ONE harmless post. hypocrite? speak for yourself. it's just ONE post. get over it. it's sad that all you do is focus on all the minor things i said, to spend all that time focusing on my words and analyze them. your life must be pitiful, to have nothing else more important than me that you have to keep hanging on to me and my that ONE post. wow man. you ARE sad.

[jubaji]

anyway, like i said, people make mistakes, i made mine, i apologized, and no one else seems to be as bugged by my stuff as you, jubajizz. i'm sorry you're not man enough to handle it, or even handle an apology when someone's big enough to admit his mistakes. .

Its great that you apologized, but that doesn't give you a free pass to be a hypocrite.