High Kicks

[sherwinc]

i frequently watch UFC and K1 but i feel very dizzy and sleep cause all fighter that you see there, all of their strikes has no power

I get the feeling you say this,because deep down inside of you,you know that your style would never work in stuff like UFC and K1 and don't want to admit to it.

both of them are still standing...... its a bullshit, its only an entertainment to my eyes like WWF..... since K1 and UFC is all FAKED fights.......

I can't believe you are saying this shit,because most fights in UFC end on the ground not standing up.

The reason is because like any tournament it has rules (they just have less rules then others)no shit it is entertainment you expect guys to beat each other up to death in a tournament? Get real.Tournaments are based on testing skills of each style.Any fight with rules is fake,you're stating the obvious.

UFC and K1 are nothing like WWF though because they are more realistic and are the closest you can get to a real fight and besides more interesting to watch.WWF is just junk food for the brain.

Karate and Tae Kwon Do tournament has rules

only KungFu tournament has no rules

but K1 and UFC is still a fake fight and useless fighters cause they cannot stop their opponent in just 2 minutes.... instead, the fight reach up to 3 rounds and that's very far from reality.....

Note:
we have to finish the fight in just 1 minute so that the police cant stop the fight or else, both fighters will go to jail....

CONVINCED??????

[MuayThaiFighter]

Karate and Tae Kwon Do tournament has rules

only KungFu tournament has no rules

but K1 and UFC is still a fake fight and useless fighters cause they cannot stop their opponent in just 2 minutes.... instead, the fight reach up to 3 rounds and that's very far from reality.....

Note:
we have to finish the fight in just 1 minute so that the police cant stop the fight or else, both fighters will go to jail....

CONVINCED??????

You're so full of shit it's funny. Kung Fu tournaments do have rules as well.

Useless fighters in UFC hey!!!!!!!,well I can tell you this much Dan Savern would kick the crap out of your sifu.Boxing rounds last up to 10 rounds or more because it's a sport not real but in a real fight they'd knock almost anyone out with just a couple hits and boxing is way more realistic then Kung Fu.Mike Tyson,Holly Field,Lewis and many more boxers would destroy your sifu or any sifu.

Conclusion: Kung Fu is not as good as you claim and you have no idea what the **** you are talking about.

[sherwinc]

You're so full of shit it's funny. Kung Fu tournaments do have rules as well.

Useless fighters in UFC hey!!!!!!!,well I can tell you this much Dan Savern would kick the crap out of your sifu.Boxing rounds last up to 10 rounds or more because it's a sport not real but in a real fight they'd knock almost anyone out with just a couple hits and boxing is way more realistic then Kung Fu.Mike Tyson,Holly Field,Lewis and many more boxers would destroy your sifu or any sifu.

Conclusion: Kung Fu is not as good as you claim and you have no idea what the **** you are talking about.

the only rules in KungFu Tournament is not to hit the eyes and groin.

If you hit his head you got a 100% points
If you hit his back and other vital points you got a 70% points
If you hit his front body you got a 50% points
If you hit his legs you got a 30% points

and the only way to stop the fight is in the fighter's command and not the referree,

the referree only watch if there's an illegal blow to the eyes and groin

there's no break, no time out, no rounds in kungfu tournament, the tournament stops is the opponent is lying on the ground and not moving at all..... or if the fighter insist to surrender if he cant manage it's opponent.....

Note:
if you hit and cant recover for a second then your defeated cause there is not temporary stopage by the referree and the tournament mostly last for 1minute or 2 minutes.

REALLY CONVINCED???????

[MuayThaiFighter]

the only rules in KungFu Tournament is not to hit the eyes and groin.

If you hit his head you got a 100% points
If you hit his back and other vital points you got a 70% points
If you hit his front body you got a 50% points
If you hit his legs you got a 30% points

and the only way to stop the fight is in the fighter's command and not the referree,

the referree only watch if there's an illegal blow to the eyes and groin

there's no break, no time out, no rounds in kungfu tournament, the tournament stops is the opponent is lying on the ground and not moving at all..... or if the fighter insist to surrender if he cant manage it's opponent.....

Note:
if you hit and cant recover for a second then your defeated cause there is not temporary stopage by the referree and the tournament mostly last for 1minute or 2 minutes.

REALLY CONVINCED???????

Your stupidity never seems to surprise me.

If you hit his head you got a 100% points
If you hit his back and other vital points you got a 70% points
If you hit his front body you got a 50% points
If you hit his legs you got a 30% points

Ya points,gee that sound realistic doesn't it?

Muay Thai doesn't fight for points,we fight full contact until opponent either gives up,referre stops fight due to too much damage,or until knock out.

there's no break, no time out, no rounds in kungfu tournament, the tournament stops is the opponent is lying on the ground and not moving at all..... or if the fighter insist to surrender if he cant manage it's opponent

Of course,why would you need a break if it's just point sparring,chances of getting hurt is less.Full contact is more tiring because our fights are longer and easier to get hurt in and more realistic.We have less rules then Kung Fu.

if you hit and cant recover for a second then your defeated cause there is not temporary stopage by the referree and the tournament mostly last for 1minute or 2 minutes.

If you get hurt in point sparring then there is something definitely wrong with your training and that also means you'd also lose in something like Muay Thai which is FULL CONTACT.

If you knock someone out cold in point sparring you don't win you get penalized and lose unlike Full contact sparring.

[sherwinc]

Your stupidity never seems to surprise me.

If you hit his head you got a 100% points
If you hit his back and other vital points you got a 70% points
If you hit his front body you got a 50% points
If you hit his legs you got a 30% points

Ya points,gee that sound realistic doesn't it?

Muay Thai doesn't fight for points,we fight full contact until opponent either gives up,referre stops fight due to too much damage,or until knock out.

there's no break, no time out, no rounds in kungfu tournament, the tournament stops is the opponent is lying on the ground and not moving at all..... or if the fighter insist to surrender if he cant manage it's opponent

Of course,why would you need a break if it's just point sparring,chances of getting hurt is less.Full contact is more tiring because our fights are longer and easier to get hurt in and more realistic.We have less rules then Kung Fu.

if you hit and cant recover for a second then your defeated cause there is not temporary stopage by the referree and the tournament mostly last for 1minute or 2 minutes.

If you get hurt in point sparring then there is something definitely wrong with your training and that also means you'd also lose in something like Muay Thai which is FULL CONTACT.

If you knock someone out cold in point sparring you don't win you get penalized and lose unlike Full contact sparring.

but the tournament of Muay Thai reaches up to plenty of rounds and after many many rounds of fight - still both fighters are breathing..... and either one of them dont die.....

the i watch too many Muay Thai Tournament in cable television and i am very imbarrased if again... the referree temporary stop the fight if there's a foul and fight again and if there's another foul again temporary stop and fight again..... i think you dont need a referree ;-)

and the worst of all is, the tournament of Muay Thai has no emphasizing of defensive moves, the most hardest head wins..... the most hardest shinbone wins,

yes, i believe that muay thai can break baseball bat with their roundhouse kick, but if i am the one who uses that baseball bat and i'll swing to strike it in Muay Thais legs - the Muay Thai's leg will break and devided into two pieces using only my baseball bat....

[MuayThaiFighter]

but the tournament of Muay Thai reaches up to plenty of rounds and after many many rounds of fight - still both fighters are breathing..... and either one of them dont die.....

the i watch too many Muay Thai Tournament in cable television and i am very imbarrased if again... the referree temporary stop the fight if there's a foul and fight again and if there's another foul again temporary stop and fight again..... i think you dont need a referree ;-)

and the worst of all is, the tournament of Muay Thai has no emphasizing of defensive moves, the most hardest head wins..... the most hardest shinbone wins,

yes, i believe that muay thai can break baseball bat with their roundhouse kick, but if i am the one who uses that baseball bat and i'll swing to strike it in Muay Thais legs - the Muay Thai's leg will break and devided into two pieces using only my baseball bat....

i watch too many Muay Thai Tournament in cable television and i am very imbarrased if again

If I were you I would be more embarrased about not being able to spell. EMBARRASED NOT IMBARRASED.

still both fighters are breathing. We breath hard because we fight harder then you kung fu guys.Besides we knock guys out way more then any kung fu practitioners do,if they ever even do.


the referree temporary stop the fight if there's a foul and fight again and if there's another foul again temporary stop and fight again..... i think you dont need a referree ;-)

Every martial arts tournament has referrees not just Muay Thai.Tournaments aren't for murdering someone only for fighting as an art and testing techniques out moron. You don't need a tournament to kill someone.

Besides you are wrong the referree doesn't stop the fight every time there is a foul but you do get warnings.Every tournament has rules otherwise it wouldn't be a tournament.

worst of all is, the tournament of Muay Thai has no emphasizing of defensive moves, the most hardest head wins..... the most hardest shinbone wins,

Whatever budd. Muay Thai emphasizes mostly on defensive moves where as Kung Fu doesn't have any defensive moves at least not effective ones.Having hard shin bones and hard hits to help in winning but not the only thing,we still have technique. People like you are just jealous we have strong legs and are able to kick harder and also that we have all the right moves to win.

I hope you realize you're not winning this arguement.I don't know about everyone else here but I personally think you're an idiot and know shit about Muay Thai.

[sherwinc]

i watch too many Muay Thai Tournament in cable television and i am very imbarrased if again

If I were you I would be more embarrased about not being able to spell. EMBARRASED NOT IMBARRASED.

still both fighters are breathing. We breath hard because we fight harder then you kung fu guys.Besides we knock guys out way more then any kung fu practitioners do,if they ever even do.


the referree temporary stop the fight if there's a foul and fight again and if there's another foul again temporary stop and fight again..... i think you dont need a referree ;-)

Every martial arts tournament has referrees not just Muay Thai.Tournaments aren't for murdering someone only for fighting as an art and testing techniques out moron. You don't need a tournament to kill someone.

Besides you are wrong the referree doesn't stop the fight every time there is a foul but you do get warnings.Every tournament has rules otherwise it wouldn't be a tournament.

worst of all is, the tournament of Muay Thai has no emphasizing of defensive moves, the most hardest head wins..... the most hardest shinbone wins,

Whatever budd. Muay Thai emphasizes mostly on defensive moves where as Kung Fu doesn't have any defensive moves at least not effective ones.Having hard shin bones and hard hits to help in winning but not the only thing,we still have technique. People like you are just jealous we have strong legs and are able to kick harder and also that we have all the right moves to win.

I hope you realize you're not winning this arguement.I don't know about everyone else here but I personally think you're an idiot and know shit about Muay Thai.

you are a very stupid, Muay Thai has no defensive moves.... they only rely on their strenght, and the most strongest will probably win a fight, no emphasizing of techniques and defensive moves...... just watch the way Muay Thai fights and you'll know that i am true......

example:
ThaiBri roundhouse kick his opponent (target is head of MuayThaiFighter) and it landed, cause he defended that kick of using his head.... due to strong head of MuayThaiFighter...... then MuayThaiFighter also pushkick his opponent ThaiBri's groin and it landed..... cause ThaiBri doesnt know how to block....

but both of them after three rounds of fight still standing..... the only possible answer is.... their striking power has no power cause after three rounds of fight still they are both standing......

Note:
you said that few are better than many.....

then if wingchun will use only 1.fook sau and 2.tan sau, he will definitely defeat the Muay Thai with 6 hand attacks (1.jab 2.cross 3.roundhose 4.hook 5.straight 6.uppercut) ........

PURELY CONVINCED???????

[sherwinc]

MuayThaiFighter, since you are a stupid, here is a link for you to convinced.... i found this link just today and i want you to browse......

http://shaolin-wahnam.tripod.com/taijiquan/defence.html

for you to CONVINCED, i think, we have the same idea about kungfu.....

[IPON]

but both of them after three rounds of fight still standing..... the only possible answer is.... their striking power has no power cause after three rounds of fight still they are both standing...

OR maybe it is becuase they are well conditioned tough athletes. Sherwic I don't know where you get these ideas about KF fighting in tournaments only lasting 1-2 minutes. One the street that is different and when on the street every stylist (MT, Boxing, KF, karate JJ etc) will react differently and fights should be relativly quick. So I think you are confusing the ring and reality.

[jubaji]

So I think you are confusing the ring and reality.

I'm pretty sure he is unfamiliar with both of those terms (in every sense).

[MuayThaiFighter]

you are a very stupid, Muay Thai has no defensive moves.... they only rely on their strenght, and the most strongest will probably win a fight, no emphasizing of techniques and defensive moves...... just watch the way Muay Thai fights and you'll know that i am true......

example:
ThaiBri roundhouse kick his opponent (target is head of MuayThaiFighter) and it landed, cause he defended that kick of using his head.... due to strong head of MuayThaiFighter...... then MuayThaiFighter also pushkick his opponent ThaiBri's groin and it landed..... cause ThaiBri doesnt know how to block....

but both of them after three rounds of fight still standing..... the only possible answer is.... their striking power has no power cause after three rounds of fight still they are both standing......

Note:
you said that few are better than many.....

then if wingchun will use only 1.fook sau and 2.tan sau, he will definitely defeat the Muay Thai with 6 hand attacks (1.jab 2.cross 3.roundhose 4.hook 5.straight 6.uppercut) ........

PURELY CONVINCED???????

you are a very stupid, Muay Thai has no defensive moves.... they only rely on their strenght, and the most strongest will probably win a fight, no emphasizing of techniques and defensive moves...... just watch the way Muay Thai fights and you'll know that i am true......

I have no idea where you get this shit information.I don't need to watch the Muay Thai fights,because I do fight Muay Thai (There is a reason my name on here is Muay Thai Fighter)myself so I know more then you do about it.Muay Thai may rely partly on strength and a little more then other arts but there are still alot of emphasizing techniques and defensive moves.No I know you are wrong.

ThaiBri roundhouse kick his opponent (target is head of MuayThaiFighter) and it landed, cause he defended that kick of using his head.... due to strong head of MuayThaiFighter...... then MuayThaiFighter also pushkick his opponent ThaiBri's groin and it landed..... cause ThaiBri doesnt know how to block....

That's the stupidest example to give. Muay Thai kicks to head once in awhile but we mostly do low kicks with shins so this alone shows me you have no idea what you are talking about.

ThaiBri might not know how to block but that doesn't mean all Muay Thai practictioners are like that,in fact we learn how to block.I'm sure ThaiBri knows how to block did you think maybe he just isn't quick enough to.Anyways I can't really say too much about ThaiBri and his way of fighting because I don't know him in person and have never seen him fight.

but both of them after three rounds of fight still standing..... the only possible answer is.... their striking power has no power cause after three rounds of fight still they are both standing

Another stupid comment,because anyone who has fought MuayThai or knows about it knows we have the most powerful kicks and have very powerful punches as those of boxing.

then if wingchun will use only 1.fook sau and 2.tan sau, he will definitely defeat the Muay Thai with 6 hand attacks (1.jab 2.cross 3.roundhose 4.hook 5.straight 6.uppercut) ........

HA HA HA.Don't quit your day job, because you suck as a comedian.I don't know what fook sau and tan sau are, but I do know Wing Chun is unrealistic unlike Muay Thai. Wing Chun isn't even meant for self-defense as far as I am concerned,even Tae Bo would be more effective then Wing Chun yet is only supposed to be an aerobic excerise using martial arts exercises.

(1.jab 2.cross 3.roundhose 4.hook 5.straight 6.uppercut)

All punches more realistic and powerful then your punches and open hand strikes.

[MuayThaiFighter]

MuayThaiFighter, since you are a stupid, here is a link for you to convinced.... i found this link just today and i want you to browse......

http://shaolin-wahnam.tripod.com/taijiquan/defence.html

for you to CONVINCED, i think, we have the same idea about kungfu.....

What a shitty website. For one if you were to use block a kick the way the first picture shows you'd be stupid especially in that stance.

If you punched me in horse stance as this website shows a Muay Thai fighter would sweep your legs from underneath you and punch you in head.Any one keeping their fist near their waste just before punching is not very bright since you leave yourself open.

The cat stance is a useless stance as you leave all your weight on back leg and nothing on front leg.

Those push hand blocks are a freaking joke no Muay Thai fighter would ever let you close enough to them to use that block and good luck being quick enough to use it. The only way we would get that close to someone is if we're going to knee or neck wrestle you.

Whether in tournament or real fight no one is stupid enough to let you grab them which makes your style unrealistic.

for you to CONVINCED, i think, we have the same idea about kungfu....

I can't believe you would think this website is convincing. Ya we have same idea about Kung FU.NOT.

I think your idea of Kung Fu and your way of trying to convince me is plain stupid and pathetic.

I think you should take my or Ippon's advice,because I agree with what Ippon says most of the time anyways.

[sherwinc]

OR maybe it is becuase they are well conditioned tough athletes.

you stupid, even thou how conditioned tough are you, you still have soft eyes, your 108 death cavities are still there to make you dead when it hit by my phoenix eye fist....

Sherwic I don't know where you get these ideas about KF fighting in tournaments only lasting 1-2 minutes. One the street that is different and when on the street every stylist (MT, Boxing, KF, karate JJ etc) will react differently and fights should be relativly quick. So I think you are confusing the ring and reality.

i attack you using 10 short hand combinations, maybe from 1to5 you can block it but from 6to10 attacks will land on your head... and kungfu can do it at around 20seconds, ..... once you'll hit with that 6 up to 10 short rapid hand fist to the head, a follow-up of 10 short rapid hands again to the head and kungfu can do that in another 20seconds, so........
for just 40seconds i can hit you at least 15 fists landed on your head....

question:
at around 60seconds (1minute) how many short powerful rapid hand fists landed on your head???????

PURELY CONVINCED???????

[IPON]

Sherwic you complain that no one aswers your questions, but when they do you never have a credible response. How many time do I have to say that I have studied wing chun (and not from a book like you) and I still do not agree with what you say. And it certainly is not from a lack of understanding. Your arguments are generally unfounded and typically border on fantasy.

You made a comment about Muay Thai fighters and I answered. Your reponse:

"you stupid, even thou how conditioned tough are you, you still have soft eyes, your 108 death cavities are still there to make you dead when it hit by my phoenix eye fist...."

Intersting I am stupid, but you still don't understand context. The context was ring finghting not some fantasy KF film fight why would you strike the eyes or "death cavaties" during a combat sporting evet

[MuayThaiFighter]

you stupid, even thou how conditioned tough are you, you still have soft eyes, your 108 death cavities are still there to make you dead when it hit by my phoenix eye fist....



i attack you using 10 short hand combinations, maybe from 1to5 you can block it but from 6to10 attacks will land on your head... and kungfu can do it at around 20seconds, ..... once you'll hit with that 6 up to 10 short rapid hand fist to the head, a follow-up of 10 short rapid hands again to the head and kungfu can do that in another 20seconds, so........
for just 40seconds i can hit you at least 15 fists landed on your head....

question:
at around 60seconds (1minute) how many short powerful rapid hand fists landed on your head???????

PURELY CONVINCED???????

i attack you using 10 short hand combinations, maybe from 1to5 you can block it but from 6to10 attacks will land on your head... and kungfu can do it at around 20seconds, ..... once you'll hit with that 6 up to 10 short rapid hand fist to the head, a follow-up of 10 short rapid hands again to the head and kungfu can do that in another 20seconds, so........
for just 40seconds i can hit you at least 15 fists landed on your head....

This really shows me Wing Chung is pathetic.It shouldn't take that many hits to hit person to head.Who needs to hit a person 15 times in 40 seconds and who needs 6 to 10 attacks to land on a person's head?

In a real fight I really doubt you're going to want to punch some one that many times in head especially standing up.A real fight should only last 20 to 30 seconds and so you shouldn't have to punch so many times in 40 seconds.Besides if it takes you 40 seconds to punch 15 times then you are pretty damn slow.

PURELY CONVINCED???????

Why is it in every post you ask if we're convinced,isn't it obvious no one is convinced by your stupidity and lack of martial arts knowledge? It is obvious you have no idea how to give good examples.Maybe if you could at least give good examples and explainations we would be at least half convinced.