tkd vs muah tai

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muaythai

first of all why are u lot chanting bruce lee rhymes who is he n e way, he was addicted 2 drugs n thrown outa his own country.

muaythai is the most effective brutal and fatal martial art, apart from brazilian ju jitsu everything else comes close to dancing.

i live in a very dangerous part of london and have a street fight every week or more, before i was doing thai i was not always winnig or doing well but for the past 3 years ive had every one up coz of muay thai.

someone said england has the worse examples of muay thai but if u have heard of RUK THAI in west london u will know that we are the best kamp and have guys who look like thai's in the ring and fight like them 2.

Muay thai is the king of M Arts's, other martial arts dont let us become commercial because it is not classified as a martial art by other fighting styles or shall i say tickling styles.

o by the way, if tyson goes 2 k1 he will have every 1 up coz they have poor mt fighters who cant even kick without stumbling. Tyson didnt rape n e one get ur facts straight, he is just a dangerous man.

[Nick]

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Bruce Lee occasionally chewed on marajuana and was sent to America by his parents so he wouldn't get arrested for getting into fights, he wasn't kicked out... also, he was born in America.

Later...

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muaythai is the most effective brutal and fatal martial art, apart from brazilian ju jitsu everything else comes close to dancing.

i live in a very dangerous part of london and have a street fight every week or more, before i was doing thai i was not always winnig or doing well but for the past 3 years ive had every one up coz of muay thai.

Muay thai is the king of M Arts's, other martial arts dont let us become commercial because it is not classified as a martial art by other fighting styles or shall i say tickling styles.

Except that MuayThai lacks any floor skills?

& i know people who live in "dangerous" area's but they dont street fight every week? when you've been around for a while you get to know the trouble makers & when a fights going to start & with any sense would just get out of there.

[Damian Mavis]

causing khaos:

hOOkeD On phOniCS WERkeD FeR ME!

Damian Mavis
Honour TKD

[MuayThaiFighter]

MTF,
I have the utmost respect for the art of Muay Thai, however MT fighters have been publicly defeated in open forum by other stand up fighters...you may wish to watch a video called "Fighting Black Kings" it is a documentary of a World Championship Kumite (open to all styles) and hosted by Oyama!
The Muay Thai fighters did well but did not last the duration ultimately loosing to a Kyukoshin fighter. Also, Benny Urquidez defeated a few Japanese MT fighters...he even used his Karate/TKD based kickboxing style (landing spinning kicks and all)!
No disrespect, but winning and losing are only temporary forces of circumstance...I believe that some styles are superior to others in certain forums but the practitioner plays a major role!

PS: Thai soldiers practiced TKD! (now to you THAT might suck)

TAEKWON!
Spookey

Believe what you want.

Thai soldiers did not practice TKD they practiced Muay Thai,I've read it before on net.

MuayThai is from Thailand so why would their art study TKD in military!!!!!!,that makes absolutely no sense.TKD is Korean.

It would make more sense to say Thai military trains in Muay Thai and Korean military trains in TKD just as Japanese military probably trains in karate.

Every country keeps to their own art in military,although from what I remember reading some where,U.S military,FBI,and other secret services train mostly in Muay Thai,I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that's what I read awhile back.

[MuayThaiFighter]

All I can add MuayThaiFighter, is that you are not anybody's savior. It's fine to express your opinion, point of view, experiences, etc... That's what this forum is about. But to openly crtiticise other styles because you find them "useless' or because you think they "suck" is arrogant, ignorant and disrespectful.
State your opinion, but show some class and respect to other people in the meantime.
Good luck in your training, I wish you well.

"MuayThaiFighter, is that you are not anybody's savior."

Damn and all this time I thought I was Jesus Christ.Sarcasm

[Dr4g0n]

Lol that this topic still exists [im T3rr0r lost password from dr4g0n]

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Believe what you want.

Thai soldiers did not practice TKD they practiced Muay Thai,I've read it before on net.

MuayThai is from Thailand so why would their art study TKD in military!!!!!!,that makes absolutely no sense.TKD is Korean.

It would make more sense to say Thai military trains in Muay Thai and Korean military trains in TKD just as Japanese military probably trains in karate.

Every country keeps to their own art in military,although from what I remember reading some where,U.S military,FBI,and other secret services train mostly in Muay Thai,I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that's what I read awhile back.

Well i watched a documentory on Sky & whatever the military was displaying it looked more like TKD than Thaiboxing to me? (lots of board breaking etc...)

[Damian Mavis]

Hey MuayThaiFighter, I actually train under the man that has a hand in training the Thai military, no TV, no internet, I actually know him, talk to him and train under him once or twice every week in Pattaya Thailand. What he teaches them honestly includes alot from all kinds of arts including what looks just like TKD and yes there is muay thai involved too. But lots of take downs and vital spot strikes. By the way this man is a white dude, the only one I think to be allowed to teach Muay Thai to Thai military, not sure if he's the only one to teach all the other stuff.

Damian Mavis
Honour TKD

[OctaviousBP]

The Thai military does indeed train in TKD. One of my Krabi Krabong teachers teaches it for the army.

[Damian Mavis]

"Believe what you want.

Thai soldiers did not practice TKD they practiced Muay Thai,I've read it before on net.

MuayThai is from Thailand so why would their art study TKD in military!!!!!!,that makes absolutely no sense.TKD is Korean.

It would make more sense to say Thai military trains in Muay Thai and Korean military trains in TKD just as Japanese military probably trains in karate.

Every country keeps to their own art in military,although from what I remember reading some where,U.S military,FBI,and other secret services train mostly in Muay Thai,I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that's what I read awhile back."



It must suck to be a personality type like MuayThaiFighters, when you always assume that your opinion should automatically be reality and truth only to have people repeatedly point out your wrong.

I'm just teasing you MTF but seriously dude, how many times do people have to tell you that you're flat out wrong before you take a less hardline approach to forming opinions based on what you'd like to be true? Surely by now you are sensing that if you don't have the facts about something then your opinion may be incorrect? Like assuming that Korea military trains only TKD, Thai military only trains MuayThai, Japanese..... I mean to you that makes perfect sense, but making sense does not make it reality.

Part of me thinks that even now you will refuse to beleive anything else but what you really want to be true and the only way to convince you would be to fly you here and have you join the military or have the Thai military invade Canada!

Damian Mavis
Honour TKD

[MuayThaiFighter]

"Believe what you want.

Thai soldiers did not practice TKD they practiced Muay Thai,I've read it before on net.

MuayThai is from Thailand so why would their art study TKD in military!!!!!!,that makes absolutely no sense.TKD is Korean.

It would make more sense to say Thai military trains in Muay Thai and Korean military trains in TKD just as Japanese military probably trains in karate.

Every country keeps to their own art in military,although from what I remember reading some where,U.S military,FBI,and other secret services train mostly in Muay Thai,I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that's what I read awhile back."



It must suck to be a personality type like MuayThaiFighters, when you always assume that your opinion should automatically be reality and truth only to have people repeatedly point out your wrong.

I'm just teasing you MTF but seriously dude, how many times do people have to tell you that you're flat out wrong before you take a less hardline approach to forming opinions based on what you'd like to be true? Surely by now you are sensing that if you don't have the facts about something then your opinion may be incorrect? Like assuming that Korea military trains only TKD, Thai military only trains MuayThai, Japanese..... I mean to you that makes perfect sense, but making sense does not make it reality.

Part of me thinks that even now you will refuse to beleive anything else but what you really want to be true and the only way to convince you would be to fly you here and have you join the military or have the Thai military invade Canada!

Damian Mavis
Honour TKD

I admit I may be wrong perhaps MuayThai miitary does have some TKD,I don't know everything no body does,but I bet anything it is mostly MuayThai that the Thai military studies.

Hey I'll be first one to admit if I'm wrong about something because I know I'm not perfect and don't know everything no one here does,but I do know what my experiences have taught me both in past and now.There are certain things I honestly believe and will stick to it no matter how many times someone tells me I 'm wrong, because I know my experiences aren't wrong.That's like trying to tell a christian what he believes makes no sense,it won't work, because it is what he believes in and how he has been brought up and should be respected.

I know sometimes I go too far but that's just me,I'm not trying to annoy anyone(although I do a good job of it.LOL),I am here to have a discussion like anyone else and to share what my experiences have taught me,but also there are certain things that I know are a FACT such as MMA being the most effective arts and that most arts lack in self-defense but not all.

I don't base opinions on what I would like to be true I base it on three things 1/my experience in different martial arts (Goju Ryu Karate, MuayThai, Submmision wrestling,Pankration)and 2/Common sense. 3/Real fights on street that I have had in past.

Thai military invade Canada!!!!!!!!! HA HA HA HA,you're hilarious,glad someone here has a sense of humour.Mind you if military did attack us,our army is so shitty we probably would lose,either way I'm trying to get into Canadian Army reserves for infantry.

[MuayThaiFighter]

The things I have learnt from both martial arts and real fights is that to win:

1/You must have right mentality(can't go in on a fight expecting to lose or being afraid to hit back in order to defend yourself).

2/Your worst enemy is fear

3/Size means crap (You can have huge guys that don't know how to fight or are slow and don 't have right mentality and in that case will lose)

4/ Technique is very important (must be able to hit properly)

5/Speed (if a person can beat you to a punch chances are you are going down if not you will win)

6/Power which comes from speed anways(speed breeds power)

7/Strength isn't important but definitely helps)

8/ Cardio -so you can out last your opponent(hopefully fight will be over within first 30-60 seconds as in most cases)

9/ Proper training(if you're going to use martial arts you better have good training coming from an art that specifically teaches self-defense and street-defense and that MMA is the best for it as it involves both stand up and grappling-simply put need to be a well rounded martial artist using styles that are effective)


When it comes down to it you can't have one without the other.

You can have the right mentality,speed power,technique and lets say for example you are huge it all means shit if you are out of shape.Power is no good without speed,and without technique power,speed and mentality means nothing.All must follow each other.

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Ha Ha someone that actually talks some sense on here (in reply to OctaviousBP "The Thai military does indeed train in TKD. One of my Krabi Krabong teachers teaches it for the army"), thai military definetly use some forms of TKD

(This was edited because of some name mixup)

[darrianation]

While I was serving in the military I participated in exercises with the Thai military. All the guys I met and Talked to (Royal Thai army) were proficient in Muay Thai. As far as TKD I don’t know if they had it mixed in. In some Thai training camps (MT) they do mix some TKD training in, but I don’t know about the military, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they did.

Note:
A lot of these guys had learned MT before going into the military. They had learned it in school or the local neighborhood gym.