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  • #16
    Originally posted by HuSanYan
    this post is dedicated to all the UFC wannabes, so there

    UFC rules, as approved by the Nevada State Athletic Commission – July 23, 2001

    Weight classes:

    Lightweight – over 145 lbs. to 155 lbs.
    Welterweight – over 155 lbs. to 170 lbs.
    Middleweight – over 170 lbs. to 185 lbs.
    Light Heavyweight – over 185 lbs. to 205 lbs.
    Heavyweight – over 205 lbs. to 265 lbs.
    Bout duration:

    All non-championship bouts shall be three rounds.
    All championship bouts shall be five rounds.
    Rounds will be five minutes in duration, with a one minute.
    A one-minute rest period will occur between each round
    Fouls:

    Butting with the head.
    Eye gouging of any kind. (this prohibits any kind of advanced eye gouging techniques found in most Chinese styles)
    Biting.
    Hair pulling. (again prohibits some of the most lethal techniques such as twisting or breaking the neck)
    Fish hooking. (prohibits many effective eagle and tiger claw techniques)
    Groin attacks of any kind. (prohibits many effective testicle kicks found in karate and kung fu)
    Putting a finger into any orifice or into any cut or laceration on an opponent.
    Small joint manipulation. (prohibits a vast array of chin na techniques)
    Striking to the spine or the back of the head.
    Striking downward using the point of the elbow.
    Throat strikes of any kind, including, without limitation, grabbing the trachea. (again, this prohibits a large number of techniques, some of which are very important in Chinese martial arts, such as the fok sau of wing chun, or the eagle claw techniques used on the throat)
    Clawing, pinching or twisting the flesh. (this would render most tiger and eagle claw styles useless)
    Grabbing the clavicle. (a very effective chin na technique)
    Kicking the head of a grounded opponent.
    Kneeing the head of a grounded opponent.
    Stomping a grounded opponent.
    Kicking to the kidney with the heel.
    Spiking an opponent to the canvas on his head or neck.
    Throwing an opponent out of the ring or fenced area.
    Holding the shorts or gloves of an opponent.
    Spitting at an opponent.
    Engaging in an unsportsmanlike conduct that causes an injury to an opponent.
    Holding the ropes or the fence.
    Using abusive language in the ring or fenced area.
    Attacking an opponent on or during the break.
    Attacking an opponent who is under the care of the referee.
    Attacking an opponent after the bell has sounded the end of the period of unarmed combat.
    Flagrantly disregarding the instructions of the referee.
    Timidity, including, without limitation, avoiding contact with an opponent, intentionally or consistently dropping the mouthpiece or faking an injury.
    Interference by the corner.
    Throwing in the towel during competition.
    Ways to win:

    Submission by:
    Physical tap out.
    Verbal tap out.
    Technical knockout by the referee stopping the contest.
    Decision via the scorecards, including:
    Unanimous decision.
    Split decision.
    Majority decision.
    Draw, including:
    Unanimous draw.
    Majority draw.
    Split draw.
    Technical decision.
    Technical draw.
    Disqualification.
    Forfeit.
    No contest.

    As you can see by looking thru the above, half the techniques that are found in traditional martial arts are prohibited, not because they do not work, but because they are too effective in damaging the opponent and removing his ability to fight, often causing permanent or at least crippling injury. Despite all this, UFC related styles are sold as “real fighting” and traditional styles are mocked and viewed as systems containing mostly useless techniques. The fact that many traditional styles lost in these tournaments makes things worse, leading high school wrestlers to believe they could beat any black belt. Yet how can you expect a fighter to win when the focus of his martial art is almost completely prohibited.
    So, as far as I’m concerned, the traditional arts of China remain the more reality based fighting art...
    True, Very True, Extremely True.........

    and that's the reason why the KungFu Fighter versus Non-kungfu-arts..... the fight doesnt start yet but the kungfu fighter is already defeated because of these enormous amount of rules......

    first.... the referree will shout "Foul" to the kungfu fighter

    second.... the referree will shout another "Foul" to the kungfu fighter

    third..... there's a stupid BREAK for preparing for the SECOND ROUND

    fourth..... the referree will shout another "Foul" to the kungfu fighter

    and last...... the referree will shout "Disqualified" to the kungfu fighter because of its illegal blows........

    and the kungfu can't apply most of its hand techniques/alphabets because the kungfu fighter are wearing handgloves........

    CONVINCED?????????

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    • #17
      Originally posted by sherwinc

      CONVINCED?????????
      Yes. That you're a moron.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by bartjam
        Yes. That you're a moron.
        and i dont care if you are king of the morons........

        haw haw haw haw

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        • #19
          Still, you are a big one.
          HAW HAW HAW
          MOOOOOHHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

          nice laugh

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          • #20
            Originally posted by bartjam
            Still, you are a big one.
            HAW HAW HAW
            MOOOOOHHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

            nice laugh
            by that attitude of yours..... you still got a lot to learn some plenty of lessons.... by the time you engage in a true street fight..... its still your own body will destroy by your opponent and not mine......

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            • #21
              Originally posted by sherwinc
              by the time you engage in a true street fight..... its still your own body will destroy by your opponent and not mine......
              Your brain must be experiencing a difficult time, judging by the structure of your writings...
              Anyway, Sherwinc, it's funny to read your Kindergarten thoughts.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by bartjam
                Your brain must be experiencing a difficult time, judging by the structure of your writings...
                Anyway, Sherwinc, it's funny to read your Kindergarten thoughts.
                you are the only one who knows how good you are with regards to your present non-kungfu arts.....

                now, here is a question:
                1. When you spar with your opponent, how many times did he hit you? pls be honest to yourself...... maybe its a 50-50.... you hit your opponent 10 times while your opponent hits you also 10 times...... then, its a HUMAN DUMMY TYPE OF MARTIAL ART.......

                pls, think of it...... you only allowing yourself to destroy by your opponent, and i dont care if what will happen to your body, i am just too lucky......

                switch your style to kungfu and forget your present art or its too late.....

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                • #23
                  I think some of you people think that WC is so complex that you wont be able to use it against boxing. This is a big mistake because even with the basics you can easily defeat a boxer. All you need is speed and timing. Basic footwork for TWC is offensive, defensive steps, half step back and forward from front stance, side neutral stance, left and right (which has been proven to be the fastest position to start off from), half steps from side neutral stance left and right. and a very effective step-side step which is used when someone is putting too much force on you and you need to get out of the way. It works really well against boxers. All right now the only blocks you really need to defeat a boxer is pak sao and lap sao. Because boxers have such a small arsenal of punches, those blocks are usually enough to block the punches. Pak sao works against cross, jab and lap sao works good against hook and cross. They can be used together really effectively. Exp.- boxer does jab you do a pak sao punch. Then as the boxer does a hook with other arm or a cross you can do a lap sao defensive step and take him off balance and strike at the same time. You see in this example boxer got hit 2 times while twc practitioner got hit 0 times. For low hooks and uppercuts you can use gan sao block and jut sao. Both work perfectly well against a punch of any speed and combined with good timing and footwork can make them really easy to use You may say: but what if the boxer comes in with a 6 punch combo really fast? Well how can he do that if he was hit on the 1st punch he did? Then you may say that TWC punches are wussy punches and won’t do shit against a boxer. I’m not going to argue about that cause it wont get through to you guys but what if instead of the punch TWC guy does bui jee strike to the eye? How is the boxer going to end his 6 punch combo? You people think that all WC lineages are the same, not realizing that there are more than 100 wc lineages in which they teach totally different stuff. EXP- Iv seen a lineage were the WC practitioner starts out with chi sao rotations instead of a standard TWC guard with one hand protecting the head, the other the elbow He would block the first punch and then start trying to play chi sao with the opponent. HAHA how can this work when chi sao is just a drill to improve your contact reflexes? Then when you people see a clip with someone like that getting their ass kicked by a mui thai boxer or some other style assume that since that jackass of a wc practitioner lost, all WC is like him and all woud lose to a mui thai kickboxer and etc. Try sparring a good TWC practitioner, black belt or higher and see how you do. As I said you most likely wont be able to do a boxing combo on him like you all say you would cause you would get knocked out or become blind for the rest of your life before you throw the 3rd punch. TWC has 50/50 weight distribution for perfect balance, there is a concept of a central line as well as a center line, which is different from other WC's cause some only understand center line. Sorry for the bad spelling, I was in a rush so didn’t have time to correct errors.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Tameo
                    even with the basics you can easily defeat a boxer.
                    On a web forum, you can. Out there, it's a bit more difficult.
                    Exp.- boxer does jab you do a pak sao punch. Then as the boxer does a hook with other arm or a cross you can do a lap sao defensive step and take him off balance and strike at the same time.
                    Typical on-paper-fight. What I personally did against (not-so-skillful) boxers was to attack immediately for a clinch, then I used head/knees/elbows and a throw.
                    Forget pak-sao/lap-sao - they fail against a boxer, unless he is a fake one, who left boxing for WC and cooperates with you

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by sherwinc
                      now, here is a question:
                      1. When you spar with your opponent, how many times did he hit you? pls be honest to yourself...... maybe its a 50-50....
                      Sherwinc, I am interested in only 2 kinds of fight. One is what happens in the streets, that's to say self-protection. You don't spar then. You just have to hit first, fukkin' hard, and then go away. The other one is NHB fighting, and for that kind of fight you need integrating different styles. I do integrate centre-line theory and the straight-blast from WC into BJJ (my main art since this year) and Thai-Boxing (read: head/knees/elbows off the clinch), still it has nothing to do with "kung fu" or CMA or any traditional martial art.
                      You are one of the few funny characters who still think CMA and "kung fu" have something to do with real fighting....

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by bartjam
                        Sherwinc, I am interested in only 2 kinds of fight. One is what happens in the streets, that's to say self-protection. You don't spar then. You just have to hit first, fukkin' hard, and then go away. The other one is NHB fighting, and for that kind of fight you need integrating different styles. I do integrate centre-line theory and the straight-blast from WC into BJJ (my main art since this year) and Thai-Boxing (read: head/knees/elbows off the clinch), still it has nothing to do with "kung fu" or CMA or any traditional martial art.
                        You are one of the few funny characters who still think CMA and "kung fu" have something to do with real fighting....
                        Me? you called me a funny character??????

                        take a look at Moses in the Biblical Event...... all of the Egyptians in that temple laugh at him that even thou 10 times they see/saw the miracles of the Lord by Moses and still the Egyptians dont believe the plataforms of Moses...... until all the Egyptian soldiers killed crossing the Red Sea.....

                        and too late for Ramesis to CONVINCED that Moses God is a true God......

                        Convinced????????


                        Note:
                        Try Learning Chinese Martial Arts and this is for your own good......

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by sherwinc
                          Me? you called me a funny character??????

                          take a look at Moses in the Biblical Event...... all of the Egyptians in that temple laugh at him that even thou 10 times they see/saw the miracles of the Lord by Moses and still the Egyptians dont believe the plataforms of Moses...... until all the Egyptian soldiers killed crossing the Red Sea.....

                          and too late for Ramesis to CONVINCED that Moses God is a true God......

                          Convinced????????


                          Note:
                          Try Learning Chinese Martial Arts and this is for your own good......

                          Wow, what an arrogance, comparing yourself with a devine messenger

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by sherwinc
                            Me? you called me a funny character??????

                            take a look at Moses in the Biblical Event......
                            Convinced???????......
                            Moses...Bible...God...CMA...
                            ROTFL

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by bartjam
                              Forget pak-sao/lap-sao - they fail against a boxer, unless he is a fake one, who left boxing for WC and cooperates with you
                              Its easy to say something you dont understand doesnt work.

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                              • #30
                                Even easier is to say that it does work without proving it

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