To people who don't seem to believe Bruce Lee is the real deal..

[lucidmist]

Now you're not even trying anymore...

Seriously, I've just been laughing every time I read your reply and I post mine. If whatever we're doing has no point, then it certainly has been funny.

[jubaji]

Oh man, you're in tears already. So soon?

Now you're not even trying anymore...

[Liberty]

ghost, i totally get where you're coming from. but remember, i question the fight between wong jack man and bruce lee, but i do not question that both of them can fight. i'm not saying godlike fighting prowess or invincibility, but either way, i'm not dismissing them both as fighters just because of the lack of footage or competitions.

but like i said, i get what you're saying.

Hi, everyone; I'm new to this site. Not really sure of an entry so. But I ran accross the following on the bullshido.net site. Thought I'd share it, as it came at a different angle on the above matter. This guy's received a really good onslaught of lableling for his stance, but whethered it well. Here's his quote of the person he was responding to, followed by his own two cents.

[quote] The most interesting thing about this whole situation, Jack Man Wong is still alive and able to tell his side of the story. Bruce Lee is not. [quote]

Perhaps, but as Jesse Glover pointed out at the end of my quote of his above - "While Bruce was alive no one challenged his account of the fight."

This is possibly a good point - There was Lee, making WJM look bad on a national magazine - Black Belt - for all in the martial arts community to see, and Wong remains quite.

"I'd gotten into a fight in San Francisco (a reference, no doubt, to the Bay Area rather than the city) with a Kung-Fu cat, and after a brief encounter the son-of-a-bitch started to run. I chased him and, like a fool, kept punching him behind his head and back. Soon my fists began to swell from hitting his hard head. Right then I realized Wing Chun was not too practical and began to alter my way of fighting." [Only Registered Users Can See Links.Click Here to Register for free]

I only mention this because it seems to me too much has been made out of the abscence, thus far, of any video clips which might "prove" any of Lee's true combat skills.

Take late mafia crime bosses, Al Capone and John Gotti, for example. The former was convicted based, not on, then, non-existant wire-tapping and video technology, but on documents and the word of one his accountants. While Gotti was imprisoned based on audio, video, coupled with the word of witnesses proven credible, inspite of their unseemly background.

Perhaps those other means might prove an interesting study.... "

I (Liberty) believe the guy's point was that there are other, just as viable ways to prove a thing. Anyway, nice to meet you guys...

[Tom Yum]

LOL. No, he's turning into T-50XXX, that's why. it's a malleable flesh...

Why does that sound like something from an adult store?

[lucidmist]

Anyway, check this out: http://www.bruceleedivinewind.com/davismiller.html

I'm not sure if many have not already read it, but at least while Davis Miller acknowledged that Bruce Lee could fight, and could storm over many, he'd most likely lose to many as well. Plenty of de-mything.

However, I still think he stands a chance against people like Ali. But it's a 50-50, IMO. Ok, put it this way.. each and every one of us, we train and practice hard, so I'm sure even when faced with bigger and faster opponents, we know we stand a chance cos we've practiced for such confrontations (unless it's a FEW big and fast opponents, then erm, rain check). Bruce wasn't just any beginner martial artist, he was well-trained.

Heh, to stretch it further.. I think Bruce would be dead if he had to take on 2 Ali's at the same time.. but d'ya think Ali could take on 2 Bruce Lee's at the same time? just to yank your chains :P

[lucidmist]

Nope, not scary again. I'm disappointed, Lucy.

Oh man, you're in tears already. So soon?

[lucidmist]

Not sure.

I watched Predator last night and all I gotta say is that the Gubinator has let himself go lol.

LOL. No, he's turning into T-50XXX, that's why. it's a malleable flesh cyborg thingie for Terminator 4.

Ha, but he's cool, i like what's he's done so far as Governor.

[lucidmist]

Pics are real.Actually the photo was taken before Arnold got himself into shape for Terminator 3.

ok.. hard to imagine. :P thanks

[lucidmist]

Hey what's up, Lucid!

I'd have to watch the video again, bro, to tell. But you know, I'm no authority on fighting. I have some *opinions*, and they are just that, although I think sometimes my opinions have merit. But in reality I'm a novice fighter that is still at what I consider the early stages of learning. What I like is that I can come here and tap into some of you guys knowledge.

hey bro, your comments are great. i believe everyone has stuff to offer, and even masters learn from students sometimes. unfortunately, i don't have much to be tapped into... also tapping into others here. are you thinking of competing someday?

anyway, thanks for sharing so much, eye opener!

[Knuckles&Knees]

Hey man! Thanks for the links.. they're GREAT! LOL, the last video, it was hilarious the way one of the boys kept throwing the other guy to the ground! Do you think the guy getting thrown would've been able to turn it around to his advantage if he learnt BJJ or some groundfighting?

Hey what's up, Lucid!

I'd have to watch the video again, bro, to tell. But you know, I'm no authority on fighting. I have some *opinions*, and they are just that, although I think sometimes my opinions have merit. But in reality I'm a novice fighter that is still at what I consider the early stages of learning. What I like is that I can come here and tap into some of you guys knowledge.

[HERQ454]

Pics are real.Actually the photo was taken before Arnold got himself into shape for Terminator 3.

[Tom Yum]

woah i just checked out their pics, and jay cutler's a monster. ronnie coleman has nice cut.. scary back muscles!

anyway.. does anyone think these pics of arnie are real??

http://www.popular-pics.com/PPImages...negger_fat.jpg

Not sure.

I watched Predator last night and all I gotta say is that the Gubinator has let himself go lol.

[Tom Yum]

Hey, if fingers to the eyes can make that physical monster Matt Hughes turn away and bend over, then it's something that has to work!

Absolutely. Using what works is important!

If punches work, use them. If spear fingers work, use them. Hell, if buying your date a drink works, do it...lol.

Each situation dictates which weapon you're going to use though. A shovel hook to the liver will down someone without killing them, whereas the spear fingers could do more damage.

And if you buy your date a good long island iced tea, mixed well, even a feral-looking guy like myself just might get a hug at the end of the evening lol.

[jubaji]

you're getting childishly boring, girl. try harder. *yaAawn*

Nope, not scary again. I'm disappointed, Lucy.

[lucidmist]

oh yeah hes still good, but yeah its moved on alot since then.
People likejay cutler and ronnie coleman are just HUGE, personally i think arnie looks better but he was not near their size, arnie had chest and arms but not the back and legs of these guys though i think they look totally freaky now.

woah i just checked out their pics, and jay cutler's a monster. ronnie coleman has nice cut.. scary back muscles!

anyway.. does anyone think these pics of arnie are real??

http://www.popular-pics.com/PPImages/arnold_schwarzenegger_fat.jpg