Medival Knight VS Japanese Samauri (sp)

[47MartialMan]

Even though the Indians lost; they went down as well respected by "Pale Face" Ever notice how many of our most advanced weapons are named from Indians or Indian Culture.

Ever noticed how long it took for this? Also, in a world of PC, this can be offensive to the American Indian culture.

[Hardball]

After Reading and studying George Silvers manuscripts; I have to conclude that the Knights were more DEFENSIVE minded that the Samauri. Both seemed to be "early history" paid enforcers or secret police however the Samuri seemed more skilled when it came to unarmed combat. IE., if you catch me without my weapon, what is my defense going to be like? Code of honor seemed to be both however the samauri practiced ritualistic suicide when faced with dishonor. I see no mention of this for the Knights.

This research thread was great for me with all the contributions given. It has led me on a path of Defense. I need to improve on my defense. When I give a seminar or private lesson; I am going to focus more on defensive skills.

[LongStaff]

The one thing that I have discussed with people about this is that honor ment everything to the samauri and winning ment everything to a knight. Lots of people said that if a Knight were to challange a Samauri, the kinght (in my opinion would have lost) but could have said my lord your armour is undone, pointing to the samauris lower body well then striking the samauri with his sword. That is a big difference between the two.

[Sensei Saki]

I think I know that one.What did you mean by that if a Knight were to challange a Samauri the kinght in his or her opinion would have lost but could have said his or her lord your armour is undone pointing to the samauris lower body well then striking the samauri with his sword? "" if a Knight were to challange a Samauri the kinght in my opinion would have lost but could have said my lord your armour is undone pointing to the samauris lower body well then striking the samauri with his sword ?
I get .Compare that to a small difference between the two.

[LongStaff]

Im confused by what you you are asking. I actually made a mistake, i ment to say that while the samauri was fixing his armour the kinght would strike the samauri while he was respecting his opponents "honor " in that he was giving the samauri the chance to be fully portected.

[Tant01]

Im confused by what you you are asking. I actually made a mistake, .....

Yup, you're responding to artificial inteligence...

Saki is a virtual member. A cyberbot, she's a program...Not a real person.

[jubaji]

Yup, you're responding to artificial inteligence...

Saki is a virtual member. A cyberbot, she's a program...Not a real person.

That doesn't make her any breast important...I mean any 'less' important.

Sorry, lost my concentration there for a sec.

[BoarSpear]

link

here's an interesting link about european ma some of you may find interesting. The old wrestling and dagger text are pretty good. http://www.varmouries.com/wildrose/fiore/fiore.html

[beatbreeder86]

here's an interesting link about european ma some of you may find interesting. The old wrestling and dagger text are pretty good. http://www.varmouries.com/wildrose/fiore/fiore.html

interesting how the drawings had shade, i dont think that technique was developed until the renaissance

[Hardball]

here's an interesting link about european ma some of you may find interesting. The old wrestling and dagger text are pretty good. http://www.varmouries.com/wildrose/fiore/fiore.html

Thanks, I got this printed out. I'm gonna read and digest then post a comment later. Thanks for the reference.

[Tant01]

Thanks BS! I mean BoarSpear!

here's an interesting link about european ma some of you may find interesting. The old wrestling and dagger text are pretty good. http://www.varmouries.com/wildrose/fiore/fiore.html

Great link!

[BoarSpear]

There are also a couple of excellent text available, MEDIEVAL COMBAT by Hans Talhofer its a 15 century illustrated manual of swordfighting and close-quarter combat. this book is incredible it covers judicial duels, unarmed, sword,pole-axe, dagger, buckler and mounted combat. 95% of the text is very detailed drawings with short explanations. And of course THE ART OF WAR by Machiavelli is an essential read if you are into the tactics and logistics of warfare.

[OneDragons]

mike, hey man you know that you can just copy and paste from the net if you cite your info. it's a lot easier than doin all that extra work.

and Tom, i know what aikido is based upon nd have a great respect for the art. read back further and you'll see what that is all about, i made a mistake in calling akijiujitsu aikido and staing some things that weren't true of aikido, but were true of akijiujitsu.

Mixing up your terms there.

AikiJutsu or AikiJitsu (depending on translation-though by todays translation protocols I believe it would be Aiki jutsu).

[Hardball]

here's an interesting link about european ma some of you may find interesting. The old wrestling and dagger text are pretty good. http://www.varmouries.com/wildrose/fiore/fiore.html

My first impression was laughter at the drawings and at the simple discription of combat but then I reminded myself that this was the 14th century. It sure shows how combat has changed especially the unpredictabilty of combat. This particular author actually predicts reactions and counters. I'll read on because it is an enjoyable read.

[Hardball]

here's an interesting link about european ma some of you may find interesting. The old wrestling and dagger text are pretty good. http://www.varmouries.com/wildrose/fiore/fiore.html

Finished reading it and consider it very eye opening. I always figured the samauri had the advantaged in non-sword techniques. But this 14th century sword/combat manual shows that the KNIGHTS used several techniques similar to the samauri. Looking at the diagrams I can see several foot sweeps, arm bars and front thrust kicks. They also utilized the single leg takedown and stomp kick. I'm sure there is more; just wondering what their practice sessions are like...................

Samauri vs Knight............interesting comparison. I'm glad I did this research.