CMA in reality vs. UFC rules

[Thai Bri]

Wing Chun work out when want to win war convinced. Real Kung Fu say yes to do work through my two Feng Shou and you convinced.

Fellatio ratio cunniWingus mean fake Kung Fu not true.

Note

Chi Kung strength like King Kong strength. NOT like silly western muscle head art tart man of muscle tunnel. Learn to funnel, not tunnel through chunnel.

Only then will real Chi Kung well hung convinced?

[Oraenor]

Chi Kung strength like King Kong strength. NOT like silly western muscle head art tart man of muscle tunnel. Learn to funnel, not tunnel through chunnel.

Only then will real Chi Kung well hung convinced?

Correction, chi gung offers donkey kong strength, thus able to slap bananas out of the ground!

[yentao]

??? after you send me a PM saying that you think I am a "very nice & funny guy, whose posts are very entertaining, lets stay in touch" to quote exact words, if thats not a slight bit of 'asskissing' then what is

Did i pm you? Haha looks like you can't say anythion and starts to make things up hahaha

[HuSanYan]

what are you doing back here bitch?, I thought you were out of here after sending me some strange asskissing PMs.
Try and show some maturity and stay on topic
also bitch, check out the Premier Member status, this means that i am now a mod and can ban your sad ass mofo

[JThorne]

I say that the chinese arts are far too full of graceful flowing movements to be of any real-world use.
As for UFC, no chance of chinese arts doing anything there. by the time a Kung Fu guy gets in his stance its all over

[Arielb]

to answer original post

You won't use in a real fight what you haven't useD in numerous almost real matches. A MMA guy knows what works because each technique is tested so many times in all kinds of scenarios. You need more than theory and technique.
Also it's a lot easier for a MMA to adjust to no rules than it is for a TMA guy to adjust to reality.
Of course, both are no match to the experienced thug who knows what it's like to crack a few necks.
That's why i'm more likely to listen to a cop who knows what it's like dealing with nasty thugs

[konghan]

You won't use in a real fight what you haven't useD in numerous almost real matches. A MMA guy knows what works because each technique is tested so many times in all kinds of scenarios. You need more than theory and technique.
Also it's a lot easier for a MMA to adjust to no rules than it is for a TMA guy to adjust to reality.
Of course, both are no match to the experienced thug who knows what it's like to crack a few necks.
That's why i'm more likely to listen to a cop who knows what it's like dealing with nasty thugs

The most common cop stradegy is to call for back up and the use of overwhelming & superior force to subdue take down one nasty thug (several cops arm with stick, tasers and guns vs. one unarmed "thug")

[Arielb]

yes but it takes time for backup to come and that punk isn't going to wait. So the cop has to know how to take them down asap. Also they have to do it in a way that uses the least amount of lethal force if they are just dealing with some drunk guy.
That makes their techniques more relevant to us. Use that super lethal poison hand kung fu dim mak on some guy who is just pushing your gf around and you're in prison for life.

[konghan]

yes but it takes time for backup to come and that punk isn't going to wait. So the cop has to know how to take them down asap. Also they have to do it in a way that uses the least amount of lethal force if they are just dealing with some drunk guy.
That makes their techniques more relevant to us. Use that super lethal poison hand kung fu dim mak on some guy who is just pushing your gf around and you're in prison for life.

With due respect to law enforcement people, but usually a cop will not try to single handedly take out a punk or a drunk they will shadow them and wait for back up to arrive. The best asap to take down a punk by a single cop is to, if he has a taser to taser him or her, the cop is to use his tofan or stick and for last resort the cop will pull out his gun in either cases the cop is going to be using a weapon the cop will not be using any hand to hand techniques to try and take down a suspect. But in most cases, cops tend to use extreme lethal force against just one drunk...Rod King was a clear example and many more out there that were not reported.

[djcaldwell]

With due respect to law enforcement people, but usually a cop will not try to single handedly take out a punk or a drunk they will shadow them and wait for back up to arrive. The best asap to take down a punk by a single cop is to, if he has a taser to taser him or her, the cop is to use his tofan or stick and for last resort the cop will pull out his gun in either cases the cop is going to be using a weapon the cop will not be using any hand to hand techniques to try and take down a suspect. But in most cases, cops tend to use extreme lethal force against just one drunk...Rod King was a clear example and many more out there that were not reported.

WHOA!!! I didn't even read the rest of this thread just this post and you all need to put the breaks on for a minute. a) I don't know what cops you know but most of my friends and some family are in law enforcement - from Nassau County Deputy, NYPD, NCPD, SCPD and NYC Court Officers. Although not the preferred method depending on where you are stationed you a lot of the time it does happen. A friend of mine works the 75 and she used to come in at least once a month where she had to take down someone who poses a threat. Another friend is a Detective on a Task Force and has used his KF training more than a few times even to fight off a knife twice. So there are plenty of empty hand times w/out lethal force.

NOW ON THAT MATTER - Rodney King I met an LAPD officer when I took the Deputy Sheriff Exam and he was on the job that day and the only thing not reported were the things that Rodney King did before the infamous scene. A) he was drugged up and in a routine traffice stop prior to the incident he assaulted a female police officer and took off. B) When he was caught he still resisted and yeah he took a beating. There are some cops that are asses but no one has the right to criticize their methods when it's their lives on the line. Louima here in NY with the shooting I know one of the guys who was there and the fact of the matter is they warned him not to move, to take hands out and to stop moving. He didn't and then yes it did get crazy because once the first shot goes off and you're in a situation where it's kill or be killed you can't judge these guys for how they reacted. If it was me and I thought he was shooting at me I would shoot him too. The fact of the matter is those guys feel horrible and have to live with what happened every single day of their life. That was an unfortunate event but and yest he was an innocent man - just stupid for not listening. If he would have dropped to his knees not moved -no one would have jittered.

As for King - sorry but I don't feel he didn't get anything more than what he deserved. If he was black, white, chinese it doesn't matter if you assault a cop, when they get you, expect to be assaulted - it's a brotherhood, a family and they are the only people who have each other's back because the general public is quick to blame them for everything. Forget the fact that the 14 year old shot was carrying a 9mm and dealing drugs. That's okay but that the cop shot him is a murderer and a racist. COME ON PLEASE!! My cousin just came back from Iraq and they would send little kids up strapped to explode when they got next to soldiers. You don't hear that do you. So he said it as honest as can be - anyone who I don't know comes charging me I'm shooting. I'm coming back home.

Now I can go back an see what the orignial topic of this thread was an maybe respond. I appologize for the rant but it gets my goat when people blatently label cops as abusers of their authority. If you're not in their situation or don't know all the facts - don't judge.

[BoarSpear]

If you're not in their situation or don't know all the facts - don't judge.

yeah thats the cops job...bang bang youre dead scum...

[djcaldwell]

yeah thats the cops job...bang bang youre dead scum...

Hope that you're joking because they are not nor do they believe they are judge, jury and executioner.

[BoarSpear]

As for King - sorry but I don't feel he didn't get anything more than what he deserved. If he was black, white, chinese it doesn't matter if you assault a cop, when they get you, expect to be assaulted - it's a brotherhood, a family and they are the only people who have each other's back because the general public is quick to blame them for everything.

Uh, read your own post...you defend the king beating, then say EXPECT the cops to GET REVENGE if you resist....(expect the people to take revenge if you keep hiding behind the blue line and acting like thugs) low standards and bad attitudes are the norm for cops anymore...they should have learned as well or even more so than the military that thier job relies on a friendly population ...hence the hearts n minds thing....every time a cop pulls over a speeder etc and terrorizes a parent in front of the kids...you lose those kids' respect...now they distrust and fear you..that wont keep you in control for long, you will have to ramp up your strongarm tactics hence more people will view you as the enemy...keep it up....see where we wind up!! already the police act and dress like the military, pants bloused in boots or Battle Dress as its called in the military. Many police departments have thier own tanks and armoured personel carriers...hmmm BTW read the cops riot helmet...he is an american cop and its a real photo...wht didnt the dept complain? oh yeah the brotherhood...Another way of looking at it is the largest gang in AmeriKa.

come to fl some time, go to the beach, note all the uniformed police out of thier cars talking to all the 13 year girls in bikinis...several have been caught taking photos ect...i had a problem with one hugging my 13 year old daughter on a regular basis ...the dept tried to say it was public relations Once i said fine i'll be taking pictures of your "public relations" it stopped

[djcaldwell]

You are way off base dude. First I never said getting "REVENGE" if you are going to quote then do so, I said if you assault a police officer then you can pretty much expect that you're going to be assaulted. King attacked a female cop with no reason other than he was high and HE ADMITS THIS. So to defend him or such behavior is foolish. Frankly, if someone was to assault a member of my family or a friend of mine I'm going to assault them if I had the chance. HE RESISTED.

As for coming to Florida I'm there all the time I have family from Clearwater to Boca and I'm well aware of what goes on there. The hugging of your 13 year old daughter as a parent that would be a problem with me too. But as a parent my child would not have the opportunity to be in that situation. As far as cops terrorizing parents in front of children...I can't comment because I have never seen it happen. If it happened to you then that sucks, you unfortunately met one of the idiots that give the rest of them a bad name.

As far as uniform dress and the militia talk of see what happens...well if you feel you are in a position to take action against "the man" then I guess you'll see what happens if they do. I personall feel that unless you willing to go out there and put your life on the line then you have to deal with it. If it is such an outrageous thing that is going on then be part of the solution instead of insighting others to be hatelful to the people they call when they need help. That makes about as much sense as shooting and/or throwing bricks at firemen who come to your neighborhood to save your neighbors and/or youself.

As for the helmet...now think about the statement...IT'S RIOT GEAR...if he has to wear that helmet then somthing is seriously wrong. Now if he was walking down the street wearing it in uniform then yeah that's a problem. But he's responding to civil unrest and people are being a$$es then well...that would be my philosophy as well and I'm not on the job. As for the rest, assault vehicles, ect. well when you're family is held hostage and you need some rescuing...make sure you tell them to leave that stuff home. After all the crap that we have been through in this country and the lives that were sacrificed because they CHOSE TO PUT THEMSELVES ON THE LINE FOR US the audacity to hold an entire community of people responisble for the actions of a few is just plain foolish. Try thanking one of them for doing what you and others either can not or choose not to do. Maybe that will make a difference in the way they treat you too.

Our society today including our youth have no respect towards their elders, authority or each other. Hell many of them don't even respect themselves. As parents, instructors and peers its our responsibility as a people to bring that back and not to enstill further hatred. Instead of saying "Police are bad because they harrassed Daddy." try "Not all policemen are like that...just like people there are bad ones but mostly the do try to help us."

Don't know...but figure why not be part of the solution.

[BoarSpear]

You are way off base dude. First I never said getting "REVENGE"

if the assault is over...and the police assault back...thats revenge. if someone breaks into your home and rapes and kills your wife and kids, you chase him down and hurt him its assault...so if a guy punches a cop in the mouth a runs and 10 cops chase him down and beat him until he is out cold...thats assault as well. (you dont get special rules for being the good guy, if anything you should be held to higher standards)

The hugging of your 13 year old daughter as a parent that would be a problem with me too. But as a parent my child would not have the opportunity to be in that situation.

oh really? do your kids go to school? he was the fucking child resource officer...So keep my kids home from school because the cops there for her safety are more interested in her body than her welfare?
The same asshole also volunteered to work with the jr lifesaver program assisting the life gaurds where i obseved his behavior...he threatened to arrest me when i told him to keep his hands off my daughter ( he said i was threatening him) it wasnt a threat....

Our society today including our youth have no respect towards their elders, authority or each other. Hell many of them don't even respect themselves. As parents, instructors and peers its our responsibility as a people to bring that back and not to enstill further hatred. Instead of saying "Police are bad because they harrassed Daddy." try "Not all policemen are like that...just like people there are bad ones but mostly the do try to help us."

kids have eyes, you dont have to tell them cop who tasered thier mommie is bad when he stopped her for not wearing seatbelts (you did see that in the news right?)...they can see that themselves...or how about the 6 year old they girl they tasered when she got mad and scratched the cop who took her candy because she was acting silly with it? he couldnt handle a 6 year old girl? all her classmates were no doubt impressed...

Respect is earned, just like distrust...i used to teach law enforcement officers free, now i wont teach em period. I am a member of the International Association of Law Enforcement Firearms Instructors and used to provide free weapon retention, edged weapons and restraint classes to F.D.L.E. the FHP and the county and city i live in... NO MORE

Many of those so called riots are because the united states is no longer a freedom of speech zone...its only a freedom of speech zone when and where they put the fences up to keep you away from everyone else if have a different opinion than those in office. Thats B.S. and when you put on your little suit and enforce that violation of the constitution you are NO LONGER a good guy. You are an enforcer of those who have stolen this country from its citizens and part of the problem, not the solution...

why dont the good cops do something about the bad ones? instead of covering it up behind the blue line? If they were really good it would disgust them and they would speak out...oh wait cant do that, you wont get back up when you need it. Many of the good one's quit the force in disgust...guess who that leaves?

BTW sorry about the hijack maybe we oughta drop it or move this to the abuse of force thread where it belongs